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Jul 19 2009 08:26pm
Quote (WDZepplin @ Sun, Jul 19 2009, 05:03pm)
It was answered before. Read the topic (was only 4 pages before)


thanks zep.

yes gbregnz - if I had to reccomend one, I would say to check out CTD labs products...decabolen and trenbolen...two very good products. couple them with NOW! Liver support. Only use these if you are over 18.
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Jul 20 2009 12:02am
I Have a sore back when i turn to my right, and when i play basketball or jump. The pain went away for about 1 week. and now it came back hurting even more. what pain reliever should i get, or advice to get it better.
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I Have a sore back when i turn to my right, and when i play basketball or jump. The pain went away for about 1 week. and now it came back hurting even more. what pain reliever should i get, or advice to get it better.


try the following:


1. Traumeel (buy it online, either the drops or the cream...both are epic)

2. Ice the area

3. See a chiropractor

4. Rest the area for 2 weeks without any exercise in that area. Gently stretch the area several times a day.
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Jul 20 2009 05:18pm
does a pump mean better gains?
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Jul 20 2009 05:29pm
Quote (Balla @ Mon, Jul 20 2009, 07:18pm)
does a pump mean better gains?


if anything it henders them.
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Jul 20 2009 07:13pm
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Mon, Jul 20 2009, 06:29pm)
if anything it henders them.


how would it hinder them? increased blood flow = increased transport of nutrients to the muscles = increased recovery

not trying to be an ass just a non hostile debate :P
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Jul 20 2009 07:13pm
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how would it hinder them? increased blood flow = increased transport of nutrients to the muscles = increased recovery

not trying to be an ass just a non hostile debate :P


that's what i've been told.
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Jul 20 2009 08:42pm
Quote (Balla @ Mon, Jul 20 2009, 07:18pm)
does a pump mean better gains?



ok we're going to discuss this here and now and bury it.

several things happen during the pump.

1. more blood flow, more nutrients hit the muscles, the muscles expand.

2. After expansion, the pump will remain as long as you are providing it - this means when u stop working out, the pump will gradually go away

3. next, after the pump have develops, nutrient and glycogen stores are depleted quickly. This initiates muscle catabolism (BAD BAD BAD)

4. If you do not get immediate fast acting protein after the gym time is over, you will actually LOSE muscle rather than gain it.

5. Even after taking protein after a workout, without the sugar spike for insulin, the muscles do not receive enough protein quickly enough to make a solid difference (this means take 20-40g simple sugar after a workout, grape juice + creatine is my choice)

6. In addition, during the pump, muscle starts breaking down rather quickly (unless you are working out for less than 45 minutes) - to thwart this, you need to be taking 2-4g BCAA every 45 mins before/during/after working out to minimize or even prevent catabolism and atrophe.

7. Right after a workout in addition to the protein and bcaa's - add 5g glutamine to your fast facting protein shake for further prevention of muscle atrophe.


So 7_deadly_sins is right in the sense that the pump can hinder your gains....but only if you do not PROPERLY supplement (which most people don't)

follow my above guide to prevent this.


Enjoy.
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Jul 20 2009 08:46pm
Trying to find the art. now....mostly all I've found is just saying how pumps wont make you grow..but that's not what I'm trying to get at. lol
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Jul 20 2009 09:07pm
was at the store earlier, was recommended --> http://www.pridenutrition.com/CGONE.aspx

what are your thoughts on this product? thanks

(actually, what are your thoughts on the pride nutrition brand? he also recommended http://www.pridenutrition.com/Store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=122 as i was looking for a type of creatine

This post was edited by dotoblivion on Jul 20 2009 09:08pm
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