Quote (bugeyewagon @ Feb 15 2013 10:10am)
With macros/micros hit squeezing in a treat I don't believe will ruin you, will it?
In regards to digestion... ok.. but we must also consider the things that slow down digestion - such as fat/fiber/protein etc. Unless your taking in pure carbs then there is no reason to stress over digestion rate... and even then..
CKD will give great fatloss, but as it's seen it tends to have a pattern of "rebounding" and individuals gaining quite a bit back. I don't see why anyone couldn't just follow a caloric deficit with set macros, be able to enjoy their lives, and still gain optimal results. Look at the top natural coaches in today's bodybuilding organization... Layne, John Otis Hollywood, 3dmj, Jason Theobald etc. don't advocate CKD for a reason.
I'm also trying to figure out your "glycogen depleted' statement. From what I understand it's very hard to deplete your glycogen stores completely. I remember reading a study a little while ago that took 9 bodybuilders through a workout and measure muscle glycogen afterwards. It showed only a 29% reduction in muscle glycogen, so do we need to really stress that subject?
If my thoughts are everywhere I apologize I'm currently working 60ish hours a week and premed (as you know its very taxing lol) but I don't see your points too well. I maybe missing some facts, getting some sleep could help with this!
I shall address each point below:
1. "Squeezing in a treat" - it depends on the treat and the calories. If we're talking a 200-300 calorie bit of ice cream or cookies, etc - no, as a one time thing it won't hurt you, but if the dieter is eating it every single day, the losses will be marginalized accordingly. It all depends on goals and level of seriousness at this point.
2. The slow and gradual digestion of carbs is very important for this purpose because for MANY people it keeps hunger at bay, longer. In addition, the slow and constant metabolizing of carbohydrates provide a slower but steadier energy source without the drop off from sugar that ultimately ends up causing the person to end up eating more. Again, we are talking real life scenarios, not clinical trials in extremely controlled environments.
3. CKD does not have any significant body fat gained rebounding effect if you continue to eat the proper calories/macros after you get off CKD in conjunction with exercise. The problem here is that people look at WEIGHT rather than BF%. Weight is BS - it can be water, undigested food, lean mass, etc. 99% of the time, when you start reintroducing carbs, you gain weight based on water storage and digestion. I would highly advise CKD for anyone attempting to lose fat rapidly and efficiently. Also, CKD has been shown to positively reverse type 2 diabetes, permanently, when a positive diet is held after CKD is discontinued.
4. You do not need to have glycogen COMPLETELY depleted in order to maximize fat loss. The goal isn't to go completely into ketosis by reducing carbs during a cut (this comes from liver glycogen) - HOWEVER, glycogen stored in the muscles acts to provide energy during a workout or muscular activity. WITHOUT glyocgen in the muscles, the body rapidly uses portions of fat during the exercise to provide energy. When liver glycogen is depleted (IE: CKD) your body is using fat constantly as energy.