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Feb 13 2013 07:28pm
would it be a bad idea to aim for 2+ lbs per week? my bmr is around 3400, is eating around 2000-2200 too unrealistic?
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Feb 13 2013 08:56pm
Quote (Dgpls @ Feb 13 2013 08:02pm)
am i a beginner? what is a beginner lifts?


How long have you been lifting? Also, what is your height/weight? Lastly, what are your 1RM lifts in the following: Bench, Squat, Deadlift?
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Feb 13 2013 08:57pm
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would it be a bad idea to aim for 2+ lbs per week? my bmr is around 3400, is eating around 2000-2200 too unrealistic?


1.5-2lbs per week is fine.

You shouldn't have a problem at first, but losses will become harder as you lose more and more.
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Feb 14 2013 03:00am
Hey Raynor,

I've been working out for a month now following this routine and diet, I would like to see if you have recommendations for me.
I do whatever weight I can at 8 reps/3 sets for an exercise for a specific muscle. I do a total of 3-4 different exercises working the same muscle. Then I burn out on the last exercise and then work on a different muscle.
I try to work out 5 days a week and take two days in between the 5 days to let myself recover. I usually do in order, Triceps/Chest/Biceps on a day and Shoulders/Legs/Core on the next.

In diet I've been taking Mass gainer at 1 1/2 the recommended amount, three times a day, in the morning and in between meals. I also take creatine mono-hydrate 15 mins before I work out. For food, I try to go for more carbs, natural protein, and low fats. So lots of rice,pastas, fish and chicken.

Currently I'm only at 145lbs, 5'9''.
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Hey Raynor,

I've been working out for a month now following this routine and diet, I would like to see if you have recommendations for me.
I do whatever weight I can at 8 reps/3 sets for an exercise for a specific muscle. I do a total of 3-4 different exercises working the same muscle. Then I burn out on the last exercise and then work on a different muscle.
I try to work out 5 days a week and take two days in between the 5 days to let myself recover. I usually do in order, Triceps/Chest/Biceps on a day and Shoulders/Legs/Core on the next.

In diet I've been taking Mass gainer at 1 1/2 the recommended amount, three times a day, in the morning and in between meals. I also take creatine mono-hydrate 15 mins before I work out. For food, I try to go for more carbs, natural protein, and low fats. So lots of rice,pastas, fish and chicken.

Currently I'm only at 145lbs, 5'9''.




This is what you need:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345094501
Hardgainer Diet and Exercise Guide
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Feb 14 2013 06:33pm
Hey Raynor, I'm looking to improve my lifts bench/dl/squat and I am currently doing this where I must be able to lift a certain weight 15 times then I jump up 20 pounds and try to lift that 15 times within a few weeks, is this good progression or should I be doing it another way, so far I've been making great gains in size and strength both, good idea to continue for a while, also right now I'm really only doing compound lifts, specifically squats, deadlifts, pullups, overhead press, bench press, bent over rows, and power cleans should I add isolation lifts or are they not really needed? I'm trying to follow the primal movements.

This post was edited by wanteddead2 on Feb 14 2013 06:37pm
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Feb 14 2013 10:48pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 14 2013 12:06pm)
This is what you need:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345094501
Hardgainer Diet and Exercise Guide


Thanks Ill read over that.
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Feb 15 2013 12:01am
Awesome thanks once again! Any other supplements you recommend for someone underweight wanting to gain mass?
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Feb 15 2013 08:10am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 11 2013 10:18pm)
Unfortunately not completely correct.

If it was simply about calories in vs calories out, I challenge you to eat a 500 cal deficit of ONLY sugar. Pure table sugar. You can also take a multivitamin and mineral to ensure you at least have proper micronutrient.

From there, compare that to a person who is on either CKD (cyclical keto diet) or a reduced carb calorie deficit diet.


You will notice the groups with lower carbs or no carbs will see greater energy levels, increased fat loss, and decreased muscle loss.



Insulin spikes by themselves don't increase fat gains. However, there are a few things to consider. When glycogen is depleted, your body is able to burn fat directly. Carbohydrates convert into glycogen. Simple carbs convert into glycogen faster than complex carbs, and thus send you out of catabolism much faster than complex carbs. Your fat burning potential is increased by limited the simple carbs for this reason.

Secondly, decreased overall carbs will also assist with lower glycogen levels - but in optimal environments, CKD is the best with no carbs and a constant stream of ketones to convert fat to energy.

Thirdly, simple carbs are typically devoid of fiber, and thus can actually slow down your digestive system. In doing so, your body can also respond with slower fat loss, decreased energy, and so forth.

Fourthly, you must also consider that complex carbs, which digest much slower than simple carbs, will have a sustained energy effect rather than the instantaneous energy followed by letdown of simple carbs.

Lastly, total calories in/out is good - but you also must have your macros in check. Without enough protein your body will not be able to repair itself or even commit to efficient fat loss. Without enough fat, your testosterone levels will decrease sharply, especially on a caloric deficit. Lastly, carbs are the least important as they only provide glycogen and energy (when not in ketosis). Lack of energy from lack of carbs can be supplemented with caffeine during a cut for optimal results.


With macros/micros hit squeezing in a treat I don't believe will ruin you, will it?

In regards to digestion... ok.. but we must also consider the things that slow down digestion - such as fat/fiber/protein etc. Unless your taking in pure carbs then there is no reason to stress over digestion rate... and even then..

CKD will give great fatloss, but as it's seen it tends to have a pattern of "rebounding" and individuals gaining quite a bit back. I don't see why anyone couldn't just follow a caloric deficit with set macros, be able to enjoy their lives, and still gain optimal results. Look at the top natural coaches in today's bodybuilding organization... Layne, John Otis Hollywood, 3dmj, Jason Theobald etc. don't advocate CKD for a reason.

I'm also trying to figure out your "glycogen depleted' statement. From what I understand it's very hard to deplete your glycogen stores completely. I remember reading a study a little while ago that took 9 bodybuilders through a workout and measure muscle glycogen afterwards. It showed only a 29% reduction in muscle glycogen, so do we need to really stress that subject?

If my thoughts are everywhere I apologize I'm currently working 60ish hours a week and premed (as you know its very taxing lol) but I don't see your points too well. I maybe missing some facts, getting some sleep could help with this!
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Feb 15 2013 10:25am
I'm going to go on cut soon. What kind of lifting workout can I do to cut? Going on calories deficit and lifting.

Could you layout a workout plan for 3x a week.

Do I need to use same weights until I'm done cutting? Etc.
Let me know if you need more specific, ill go on my computer and type, I'm doing this on mobile ATM. Slow and annoying.
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