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Feb 6 2013 10:19pm
Quote (TempoONE @ Feb 6 2013 07:47pm)
Raynor, I just attended a seminar that claims that 20 g of protein is the optimal amount for absorption by the body per meal.  Anymore than that, then one is wasting their money.  What do you think of this claim?

And what is the optimal amount of protein per day 1.5x (g/kg of body mass) or is it 2x?



1. They have no idea what they are talking about. Protein absorption varies tremendously based on the following: 1. body mass, 2. genetics, 3. digestive enzymes, 4. type of protein and its bioflavability, 5. amino acid breakdown, and so forth. There is no one particular amount that benefits anyone. A good rule of thumb is that 50g of protein per 200 lbs of bodyweight per meal is sufficient.

2. It depends. 1.5 is fine for 99% of people, 1.75-2.0 is for those in the elite class training as professionals.


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Feb 6 2013 10:20pm
Quote (silent9 @ Feb 6 2013 08:39pm)
1) It's bullshit.
2) ideal is 1.7 or so



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Feb 6 2013 10:20pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 6 2013 10:15pm)
5x5 three times a week is VERY hard on the knees. You are not getting enough rest to prevent injury. My advice would be to drop down to 1x or 2x per week maximum. Take Universal Animal Flex, plenty of Omega 3, drink lots of water, and rest sufficiently and you should be fine.


that might explain why after doing 5x5 for 2 months, jogging felt hard on my knee.

what do?
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Feb 6 2013 10:21pm
Quote (s123 @ Feb 6 2013 11:48pm)
using [Horizon Fitness EX-59 Elliptical Trainer]
at what resistance should i run it?


Whatever you are comfortable with. I would advise somewhere in the area of 25-50% resistance. Feel it out and you will know what is best.
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Feb 6 2013 10:24pm
Quote (silent9 @ Feb 7 2013 12:20am)
that might explain why after doing 5x5 for 2 months, jogging felt hard on my knee.

what do?



It seems like you may already be at the stage of weakening the knee joints and/or the surrounding cartilage.

The solution now is to do the following:


1. Take 2-3 weeks off of legs all together.
2. Apply ice to the knees 3-4x per day @ 20 minutes each time
3. Take universal animal flex
4. Take extra omega 3 (around 2-3 g 4 x per day)
5. Stretch lightly, but do NOT overstretch to the point of pain.
6. Wear knee braces when you start back up with legs 2-3 weeks from now
7. Keep squatting to a minimum (1x per week). You can use leg-press as an intermediate workout to reduce knee stress.
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Feb 6 2013 10:26pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 6 2013 08:19pm)
1. They have no idea what they are talking about. Protein absorption varies tremendously based on the following:  1. body mass, 2. genetics, 3. digestive enzymes, 4. type of protein and its bioflavability, 5. amino acid breakdown, and so forth. There is no one particular amount that benefits anyone. A good rule of thumb is that 50g of protein per 200 lbs of bodyweight per meal is sufficient.

2. It depends. 1.5 is fine for 99% of people, 1.75-2.0 is for those in the elite class training as professionals.


is that 1.5x per pound or kg of body weight?

Also is that lean body weight or overall body weight?
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Feb 6 2013 10:35pm
Quote (TempoONE @ Feb 7 2013 12:26am)
is that 1.5x per pound or kg of body weight?

Also is that lean body weight or overall body weight?


1.5g / pound works fine for the general weight lifting population.

It's for overall bodyweight, but it also assumes you are in relatively decent shape...not 400 lbs of body fat with 80 lbs of lean mass lol.
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Feb 6 2013 10:36pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 6 2013 10:24pm)
It seems like you may already be at the stage of weakening the knee joints and/or the surrounding cartilage.

The solution now is to do the following:


1. Take 2-3 weeks off of legs all together.
2. Apply ice to the knees 3-4x per day @ 20 minutes each time
3. Take universal animal flex
4. Take extra omega 3 (around 2-3 g  4 x per day)
5. Stretch lightly, but do NOT overstretch to the point of pain.
6. Wear knee braces when you start back up with legs 2-3 weeks from now
7. Keep squatting to a minimum (1x per week). You can use leg-press as an intermediate workout to reduce knee stress.


so 5x5 isn't good?

:(
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Feb 6 2013 10:52pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 6 2013 07:18am)
Dairy free or lactose free?


Both, I can't eat any dairy as im allerigic to it. It's different from lactose intolerant though. I can't eat dairy lactose whey casien ect
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Feb 7 2013 09:57am
Quote (silent9 @ Feb 7 2013 12:36am)
so 5x5 isn't good?

:(



It is good, but not 5x5 squats 3x per week like you've been doing. You need time to let your body heal before proceeding.

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