Quote (Canadian_Man @ Dec 28 2012 02:13am)
Raynor,
Do you have any good input about adrenal fatigue and adrenal insufficiency. I take quite a bit of preworkout stimulants regularly (for lifting only of course), and I'm basically trying to determine when to shift off of them and for how long. I find they really get me pumped up and super happy to work out. I've been making great gains, so I don't think I have any adrenal issues... but the amount of preworkout I take is something that leaves me wondering if I should worry about any side-effects.
I was reading this:
http://www.endo-society.org/media/press/2010/New-Fact-Sheets-Dispel-Myths-of-Adrenal-Fatigue.cfmI'm curious as to whether "adrenal fatigue" is a mislabeling, and whether "adrenal insufficiency" is something stims could cause?
You could almost call me "addicted" to preworkouts: I don't need them, I could choose to not take them, but I have been taking them for every workout for the past number of months almost without fail. I want to continue taking preworkout supplements (I realize you recommend black coffee), and I may ween myself over to completely caffeine-based (or home-made) preworkout choices, but for now I'm interested in knowing about what I should do in terms of keeping my gains as optimal as possible. So the question, again, is how long I should go off of preworkout supplements if I need to at all... and how long I can be using preworkout supplements without issues (a generalization)... and if any of the above-mentioned issues are legitimate concerns.
A little of a long-winded and multi-faceted question here... hopefully I'm not being too ignorant or frustrating in my approach to asking this. Thanks!
OK to keep things simple I will illustrate the idea as follows:
1. Dependency is the key issue here. Forget Adrenal fatigue and insufficiency.
2. Dependency can come in many forms, and in this case, the connection between physiological effect of stimulants, as well as the mental component of "reward" for doing so, has established neural pathways that allow your body to become dependent on the pre-workout supps.
3. Over time, dependency will increase, and the effects of pre-workouts will decrease, requiring more and more to satisfy your needs.
4. In addition, over time, your body can develop resistance to stimulants and you will start seeing mild withdrawals (mostly from caffeine).
5. The other agents used in pre-workouts, such as artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. can have serious long term effects, especially when taken in the massive doses provided in pre-workout supplements.
The totality of the situation -
Everything foreign to the body without direct nutritive properties should be cycled to prevent the above.
For pre-workout stimulants, including pure caffeine, I would not use for more than 6 weeks without a 1 week break. Also, on days OFF from the gym, do not ingest caffeine or other stimulants - this will help keep your tolerance in check.