Quote (TerrorisT613 @ Oct 1 2012 10:45pm)
Wow, this thread is awesome!
I have a question for you (with a lot of back story that needs to be said) I hope that is okay:
I used to work out almost daily, and that involves cardio, weights and kick boxing. The tricky part is that my knees are slightly knocked. It's hard to describe without taking a picture, so I'm going to try an ASCII picture:
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They sort of look like that. They aren't at that angle, they are definitely less knocked than above, but they are off and have been all of my life. If my leg was straight in front of me, I would say it's like a 5 to 10 degree angle.
My patellas dislocate all the time (outward dislocations on both legs). It happens to my left one much less often than my right, but when it happens they move out of the socket and back in, usually causing me to fall (and swear a LOT). This generally happens when I mis-step or slip on ice (if I slide while twisting my leg, or putting pressure/weight on my leg as it's sideways). It's painful and has swelling for a day or two when it happens, but at this point I've gotten use to these types of dislocations.
Here's the tricky bit. My left patella has never dislocated and remained out of socket until I pop it back in, but my right one has done it twice so far. Those two times, my right patella was out of socket and I had to relocated it (painfully... zzz) myself.
About a year ago is the last time I had a serious dislocation of my right patella (the first time was 6 years ago). It was while I was kick boxing. After landing a high kick on the bag, I had placed my leg behind me and pushed off of it, but I think I slipped very slightly on my shoe lace, or some water or maybe even my own sweat on the gym floor but regardless, the slip was JUST enough to blow my knee out. I relocated it on site but went to the doctors anyways.
I'm being recommended surgery, but I really don't want to follow through with it because they say it will be very difficult to fully recover and be able to kick box again (in case you're wondering, the surgery would be for my right leg only and would align my tibia with my knee joint/femur).
They say that if I do very specific exercises I may be able to strengthen my knee cap and lessen the rate of dislocations. I'm going to make a small diagram below.
y | x x | y Let's say the lines are my thighs/shins, and the circles are my knees. I'd have the strengthen the interior muscles a LOT, and not exercise the exterior muscles at all. I've marked interior with x and exterior with y.
y o x x o y
y | x x | y
It may sound weird, but the docs say that the muscles of the outside of my leg have always been too strong while the inside was too loose, and that's why I have to specifically exercise them like that (if I did the surgery above, one of the steps would be to cut the exterior muscle connected to my knee cap and tighten the inside one as well).
Although I've had minor dislocations (the type that just pop out then back in really quickly) throughout playing sports and such, my most recent dislocation was very mentally scarring since it was such a severe case while in the middle of exercising, even though minor dislocations had happened to me all the time. I have not exercised at all since then and have gained like twenty pounds over the last year, and I feel the noticeable health difference (and the extra weight/appearance on me). Every time I get motivated to start exercising again, I just dismiss it immediately and get scared to start exercising again.
My question to you is, are there any slow exercises I can start doing to begin strengthening the inside muscles? I feel like my body weight is more than enough right now so I don't need any extra weights or anything. Could I progress in strengthening the inside muscles, and maybe work my way up to stronger interior leg work outs? I would REALLY rather not do anything that involves twisting my knee, at least not right off of the bat. I also have an electric muscle stimulator if you think that it would help (as you can imagine, I've had a #$%^ ton of physiotherapy, lol) post workouts.
I really appreciate your time in reading my giant wall of text. I know most of the questions you've been answering were simpler ones/not so indepth so I'm sorry to burden you with such a long one. I'm going to donate 10FG to you, regardless to whether you respond or not, just because I think that the thread you've made here is amazing and really helpful to a lot of people. Thank you!
hey there.
Exercises for inner legs: Wide squats with toes pointing out at 45 degree angle, leg extensions with toes pointing out as well, leg lunges with DB.
If you want to try these out for a few months, work out every other day (doing just these), and also add some swimming to your pre or post workout, and WRAP your knees prior to lifting, you should see some improvements.
If after a few months, there is no viable improvement, surgery would be a fairly good option as long as you are willing to deal with the potential effects.