Quote (Pman1 @ Sat, Jul 11 2009, 07:52pm)

Could you tell me what supplements i should take?
I have pills creatine when gone switching to no shotgun.
I have synthesis-6
and Elite Whey Isolates
And i should get bcaas?
edit: also fish oil and multi vitamin?

Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Jul 11 2009, 09:02pm)

for creatine try optimum 100% micronized creatine

for pre-bedtime protein try either optiumum casein or bsn syntha-6

for regular protein shakes try NOW! 100% whey isolate or Cytosport Muscle Milk (or mix 1 scoop of each for best results)

get Optimum BCAA's capsules

NOW! SUper omega 3-6-9 for fish oil, take 3 with every food meal

and multivitamin get NOW! Adam

Quote (jn134o8 @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 05:00am)

3 w/ every meal? that's like 18 a day haha

Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Jul 11 2009, 04:35pm)

unless you are intentionally leaving out your regular meals....you will be HIGHLY malnourished on this plan.

A good idea for fat loss and muscle gain is 3 shakes a day and 3 meals a day....like this

meal 1 - food
meal 2 - shake
meal 3 - food
meal 4 - shake
meal 5 - food
meal 6 - casein shake


now as far as your actual plan goes....the first part is great, the morning cardio w/ bcaa's etc...beautiful.

2nd time at the gym is good as well.


only problem is...you really need to be loading urself with lots of complex carbs after your first workout and tons of protein from actual food sources. Regardless of how many bcaa's you take, your body can not continue at that level of intensity without actual good food fueling it.

You can have as many bcaa's as you want with no negative effects.


also avoid the grapes, oats are 23564363x more important...you can have some dried fruit in your oatmeal for flavor and added post workout sugar.

Quote (piller @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 01:04am)

Hopefully he doesn't actually mean that much....thats a bunch! youd finish a normal bottle in likea week lol

Quote (gloryfield @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 01:56am)

Oh no, I'm only listing the first part of the day.  The rest of meals I'll be eating chicken/fish/scallops along with veggies or nuts.

So do you think my plan for the morning portion works?

Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 12:21am)

Yes Piller, I do mean that much. 3 softgels with every FOOD meal. in perfection....thats 9 fish oil softgels per day...considering the ideal is to eat 3 meals and have 3 shakes. 9 fish oils a day is FAR from extreme.

If you are serious about fat loss and overall health, this is one of the most solid methods to pursue.

Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 07:21am)

Yes Piller, I do mean that much. 3 softgels with every FOOD meal. in perfection....thats 9 fish oil softgels per day...considering the ideal is to eat 3 meals and have 3 shakes. 9 fish oils a day is FAR from extreme.

If you are serious about fat loss and overall health, this is one of the most solid methods to pursue.

Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 00:02)

for creatine try optimum 100% micronized creatine

for pre-bedtime protein try either optiumum casein or bsn syntha-6

for regular protein shakes try NOW! 100% whey isolate or Cytosport Muscle Milk (or mix 1 scoop of each for best results)

get Optimum BCAA's capsules

NOW! SUper omega 3-6-9 for fish oil, take 3 with every food meal

and multivitamin get NOW! Adam