Quote (TooNArmY @ Sep 18 2012 01:08am)
Fair enough, i will only post questions to you, and no other comments.
As a question for you on H & F, i'd honestly like to know why you're advising the following individual to consume under 2,000 calories.
From reading this, he calculated his BMR based on his BMI, which is alright i suppose, but doesn't
? BMR only compromise aprox 70% of daily caloric expenditure, as the thermic effect of feeding and much, MUCH more importantly the thermic effect of physical activity (including NEAT) compromise aprox another 30% + in caloric output per day. So if someone's BMR was only ~2200, wouldn't their daily caloric expenditure be somewhere much closer, if not exceeding 3,000 calories ( for a physically active individual)
??So wouldn't their daily energy expenditure be more towards 3,000
? Therefore making someone eat over one thousand calories while exercising be detrimental
?- Sincerely curious :) ?Incorrect assumptions.
I challenge you to feed a person of his stature and exercise level at approx 2,700-3,000 calories and attempt to observe fat loss. You won't.
The reason behind this is ADAPTATION which is almost never considered with regard to cutting cycles in non-ectomorphs/non-mesomorphs. Ectos and Mesos will see RAPID fat loss at any type of caloric deficit, so these body types do NOT count. Endomorphs are the only body type that truly need a structured cutting cycle that enables them to gain control of slower metabolisms and force fat loss beyond what is genetically accepted.
The human body easily and almost immediately adjusts to dietary losses and as a result will fine tune expenditures to meet the caloric requirements. This is why so many people experience the ability to maintain body mass and body fat with great fluctuations in calories. IE: 3,000 calories a day vs 2,200 calories a day.
The only way for a non-meso/non-ecto to lose fat as a rapid pace without absurd amounts of intense activity is to greatly reduce calories, particularly from carbohydrates, and continue with moderate exercise levels.
BMR calcs are baselines that a person can safely assume they can eat at or around and not gain any body fat. With that in mind, 500 cals of exercise in a day, eating at BMR levels should yield 1 lb of fat loss per week right? Wrong. Even with adjustments to daily activities that generate 25-35% additional caloric expenditures, the body detects reduced calories and begins to slow the metabolic process as a precaution. As a result, 500 cals under TOTAL BMR+MISC+EXERCISE will be far too great to see any useful losses of fat.
In addition, a person must eat for the lean mass they WANT to achieve, not what they are. IE: if the calories in BMR are 2,000 and misc + exercise raises to 3,000, that means eating 2,000 cals a day on workout days would be acceptable for fat loss at that persons CURRENT specs. As they lose fat, the caloric requirement drops as well.
I advocate keto far beyond all other forms of cutting, but rarely suggest it to people seeking general fat loss - mostly for how difficult it is to achieve with normal constraints.
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Please keep this in mind and PM next time.
Thanks.