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Aug 19 2012 06:37pm
Quote (Umskiptar @ Aug 19 2012 04:43pm)
Hi. I have just recently started training (approx. 3 months ago), because I got VERY small and weak after lying 3 months in bed due to cancer and surgery.
I am already starting to see some real improvements in my muscular size, especially pecs, triceps and legs (legs, because of high-stress bicycling. About 25 mph average on a mountainbike 20 miles a day).

I however wonder, how I should train or/and eat, for slowly gaining definition, with the end result being something quite like this guy I borrowed from google:

http://i56.tinypic.com/rusld1.jpg

I am also quite annoyed by my ribs, they are always visible on me, even if gaining 10 pounds additional weight (which hurts my stomache and eyes...). I don't know if you would know of any possible reason for that? I have almost too low body fat though.

And at last, what should I avoid, if I do not want to look just bulky, like this guy:

http://worldfitnessnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bigstockphoto_bulky_bodybuilder_in_thoughts_4112813.jpg

Thank you, beforehand :)




Hello there.

What is your height and weight? Also, do you have a picture of yourself?

The basic idea here is that you want to keep your excess calories to a minimum on bulking. That means no more than 300 cals over your total BMR + Exercise per day.

Example, if your body BMR is 2,000 calories and you do 500 cals of exercise (weight lifting) you should eat 2,800 cals a day.

40/40/20 (carbs/protein/fat) should be the percentages of macros you should use.

Give me your height/weight before we go any further.
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Aug 19 2012 06:38pm
Quote (Kerzhakov @ Aug 19 2012 05:22pm)
Got the same problem with mah ribs.

never heard anyone say "Thank you, beforehand"  :bouncy:



You need to gain additional weight both in lean mass and body fat to make the ribs disappear. Some people have naturally more defined rib cages with their frame. For this, you need to continue bulking.
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Aug 19 2012 06:39pm
Quote (dgkblack @ Aug 19 2012 06:15pm)
Hey Raynor,

I've had absolutely no strength gains in the past 3-4 months, and I have absolutely no idea why.

My macros are in check, i'm consistently gaining weight, and the volume seems fine but nothing seems to be changing.

Any idea what it could be?

The only thing that has changed is my arm size went up from 15' to 16'.



What routine are you using? Also what diet?
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Aug 19 2012 06:52pm
i got this weird little rash patch right in-between my traps on my back, where the squat bar rests, thats what its from, the metal part or w.e ... it feels kind of rough do you know how i can get rid offf it ? it doesn't hurt the slightest nor does it do anything to me just visually unappealing id like it gone -____-

edit : it is not a line or red mark, its in the middle of my middle trap area and looks brownish , almost like a tan spot on my back, rough to the touch.

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i got this weird little rash patch right in-between my traps on my back, where the squat bar rests, thats what its from, the metal part or w.e ... it feels kind of rough do you know how i can get rid offf it ? it doesn't hurt the slightest nor does it do anything to me just visually unappealing id like it gone -____-

edit : it is not a line or red mark, its in the middle of my middle trap area and looks brownish , almost like a tan spot on my back, rough to the touch.


Moisturize the area consistently throughout the day, and keep the bar off your back. You can also ice the area 3x at 20 mins each for 3 days.

Next time, use a pad on the bar if this sort of thing bothers you.

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Aug 20 2012 05:11pm
Your inbox is full so I can't reply. But yes I am good with that
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Aug 20 2012 06:39pm
Hey, Raynor,

This question is mostly out of curiosity, so if you don't know or don't want to explain, I'll be perfectly fine. Haha

I was thinking about ketosis, as I don't want to be trying to figure out a new diet from scratch while I'm in pharmacy school if I switch over, and I was wondering about the avoidance of citric acid.
My basic question is: why does citric acid "throw you [from] ketosis?"

It's possible that it has just been shown, and the explanation is mere conjecture, but I thought I would ask in case you knew.
Even as far as conjecture my understanding is limited.

You could replenish NADH+ and GTP, where the GTP could be converted to ATP by Nucleoside Diphosphokinase, but I would guess that without another incoming source of energy, oxaloacetate would hinder the forward reaction in a short time. Compared to even the near zero intake of carbs, this would seem like a very limited source of energy. . . so I doubt my conjecture there accounts for anything.
I guess I don't have any idea if the body uses citric acid as a signalling molecule. I suppose it could be an early indicator of incoming products from glycolysis. . .
I also don't really know if it's related to glycolysis or gluconeogenesis.


Anyways, enough of me ranting. It's not helping with my question. I was just curious if you knew, or had a reasonable explanation as to why citric acid would have such an effect.

Thanks again, Raynor
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Aug 20 2012 06:59pm
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Your inbox is full so I can't reply. But yes I am good with that


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Quote (sven00100 @ Aug 20 2012 08:39pm)
Hey, Raynor,

This question is mostly out of curiosity, so if you don't know or don't want to explain, I'll be perfectly fine.  Haha

I was thinking about ketosis, as I don't want to be trying to figure out a new diet from scratch while I'm in pharmacy school if I switch over, and I was wondering about the avoidance of citric acid.
My basic question is:  why does citric acid "throw you [from] ketosis?"

It's possible that it has just been shown, and the explanation is mere conjecture, but I thought I would ask in case you knew.
Even as far as conjecture my understanding is limited. 

You could replenish NADH+ and GTP, where the GTP could be converted to ATP by Nucleoside Diphosphokinase, but I would guess that without another incoming source of energy, oxaloacetate would hinder the forward reaction in a short time.  Compared to even the near zero intake of carbs, this would seem like a very limited source of energy. . . so I doubt my conjecture there accounts for anything.
I guess I don't have any idea if the body uses citric acid as a signalling molecule.  I suppose it could be an early indicator of incoming products from glycolysis. . .
I also don't really know if it's related to glycolysis or gluconeogenesis.


Anyways, enough of me ranting.  It's not helping with my question.  I was just curious if you knew, or had a reasonable explanation as to why citric acid would have such an effect.

Thanks again, Raynor
~Steven




Excellent question.

Regarding ketosis, the citric acid question is more of a hindrance from entering Deep Ketosis, than throwing a person out of deep ketosis. Essentially, it can take up to a week to get into deep ketosis, which is why I advise a carb day every 2 weeks rather than every 1 week. Obviously, exercise level and intensity as well as overall liver health have a lot to do with how fast someone enters ketosis. Assuming you are 30% into ketosis and nearing the moderate phase, and you consume citric acid, you run the risk of preventing your body from continuing into deep ketosis and thus the carb day will then come too soon, repeating itself a viscious cycle where true ketosis is never achieved for any sustained period of time. The reason for the citric acid preventing the body continuing into ketosis has to do with citric acid activating the Krebs cycle (citric acid cycle) and thus leading to gluconeogenesis

HOWEVER -

The studies have shown that only SOME subjects were kicked out of ketosis, or rather prevented from going into deep ketosis by consuming citric acid. Others were absolutely fine with it. This is a person-to-person anomaly that can NOT be explained (yet).

My advice is always to stay away from the citric acid in order to ensure total ketosis without incident, in case you do happen to be one of the people who is affected negatively by its consumption.

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Aug 20 2012 09:09pm
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Must have filled up pretty fast because I couldn't reply again lol. Anyways.

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OK.

Before I make the plan, my recommendation is for you to do 8 months of lean bulking, followed by a 2-3 month cutting cycle. This method will give you the best gains in the shortest period of time.

If you are good with this, let me know and I will begin construction.


I am good with this plan. If you just wanna pm me when you can that'd be great.

Thanks
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Aug 21 2012 03:52am
Hey bud!
I was sort of day dreaming today and was wondering about this: what would happen to the body if someone ate only meat? I'm curious because old sailors used to do so. Though I doubt their health was anywhere near perfect.

Thanks ^_^
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