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Jul 9 2009 04:01am
Quote (Balla @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 02:13am)
hey any way to get your veins bigger..well just increase vasularity? like without cutting i mean...as im bulking is there a way to make my veins bigger and show more? i don't want it to be like an hour temporary thing either lol



Quote (Algae @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 04:06am)
im kinda having this problem too sometimes. i kinda want to see more veins run through my upper body .. you can see the bicep peak and the shoulders lots of skin but not many veins.

that veined look is pretty tight.. that's what im iso as well




Yes. To increase overall vascularity you need to do several things.

1. Decrease sodium levels, increase potassium/magnesium/calcium levels...idea input should be 2g sodium/4g potassium/2g magnesium/2g calcium

2. Increase water intake - at least 1 gal a day, preferably1.5-2.

3. Increase arginine+ornithine intake (NOW! Arginine+Ornithine pills, take 3 pills every 3 hours for maximum results)

There is also a thing called sodium cycling which helps force the blood vessels to swell and expand...but I don't recommend it because its very dangerous to the body (especially the heart). This is where you take huge doses of sodium for several days straight, and then get off of it and replace it with huge doses of potassium/magnesium/calcium (2/1/1 ratio). This forces the blood vessels to expand and shocks the body in the process. Do not attempt this method.


Genetics however are the largest part....and we unfortunately can not change this.


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Jul 9 2009 04:07am
Quote (KickinWings @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 01:36am)
would venison be considered a lean meat? its a lot leaner than most normal beefs in my opinion, of course not easy to come buy unless you shoot the deer in the first place but delicious none the less

also, with my diet its been hard to eat everything at the right times and the right well, stuff...

heres how my normal day goes:

wake up
im supposed to go for a light job or even a bike ride for like 30-45 minutes
eat a turkey sandwich (pepper jack cheese, whole wheat bread)
make more turkey sandwiches til dinner and eat whatevers for dinner
eat an apple and peanut butter somewhat within an hour or 2 of sleep
sleep late cuz its kinda hard for me to sleep

so pretty much im eating the complex carbs of whole wheat bread throughout the day and then that apple and peanut butter late at night and im not sure its the greatest idea but its some of the only things i actually like and can readily have to eat, i mean i could make eggs but im gonna have to remember how of course

my stomachs not quite where i want it as in bf% and ive been trying for months with a cleaner diet but no progress really, its stayed generally the same

also with all this ive been lifting (or trying to lift, ive been taken up north so many times and ive missed workouts for football [3 times a week]) and ive seen some muscle gainages on my arms but my chest shows no progress, i take it some muscles are harder to build than others?



ok heres what you need to do:


1. you need a more rigid diet. no more generalized turkey sandwiches and "whatever" for dinner...you need specifics.

2. start doing 20-30 mins of cardio at the end of every workout

3. before bed, replace the apple and peanut butter with cottage cheese

4. eat every 2 hour

5 no sugar.


Diet -


meal 1 - 3 eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, 1 banana, 1 glass milk

meal 2 - protein shake or turkey sandwich

meal 3 - protein shake or tuna salad sandwich

meal 4 - 1 lean meat + large helping of green veggies

meal 5 - 1 lean meat + large helping of green veggies

meal 6 - cottage cheese + a few mixed nuts (any kind). If you can't stomach the cottage cheese, replace with casein shake (optimum is fine)
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Jul 9 2009 04:24am
i see u just said to do 20-30mins cardio after a workout
what is the difference if i do it before a workout

for instance my last 3 workout days are as follows

Tuesday 7th July total 45mins
5min skipping warm-up
25mins skipping – 250skips (~2min) then 1 min rest = total 1500 skips
5min floor to ceiling ball
500 consecutive speedball punches – no mishits
Heavy bag – 1min muck around
50 bicycles
50 crunches
50 leg raises

Wednesday 8th July 1-1.5hrs
40mins skipping
25 box jumps
50 step-ups
25 squats bodyweight
15 squats holding pine tree log

Single 10kgDumbell exercises
3 sets of 10 reps of each of the following
Clean and press
Concentration curls
Overhead shoulder press
Lying down dumbbell chest press
Exercise ball dumbbell chest press

Abs
20 sit-ups
20 in and outs
20 leg raises
20 reverse crunches
40 bicycles

20 pushups

Thursday 9th July 1.5hrs

5x rounds skipping 3min work:1min rest
2x20 box jumps onto logs
2x20 front squats with log
2x20 tricep sawhorse dips
2x20 incline pushups on saw horse
2x20 saw horse shrugs

3min rounds 1min rest in between
2x shadow boxing
2x heavy bag
2x speedball
2x floor to ceiling ball

15 sit-ups
15 crunches
15 in and outs
15 leg raises
15 bicycle
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Jul 9 2009 06:24am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Thu, 9 Jul 2009, 04:01)
Yes. To increase overall vascularity you need to do several things.

1. Decrease sodium levels, increase potassium/magnesium/calcium levels...idea input should be  2g sodium/4g potassium/2g magnesium/2g calcium

2. Increase water intake - at least 1 gal a day, preferably1.5-2.

3. Increase arginine+ornithine intake (NOW! Arginine+Ornithine pills, take 3 pills every 3 hours for maximum results)

There is also a thing called sodium cycling which helps force the blood vessels to swell and expand...but I don't recommend it because its very dangerous to the body (especially the heart). This is where you take huge doses of sodium for several days straight, and then get off of it and replace it with huge doses of potassium/magnesium/calcium (2/1/1 ratio). This forces the blood vessels to expand and shocks the body in the process. Do not attempt this method.


Genetics however are the largest part....and we unfortunately can not change this.


Very good post imo. Thanks for the info, I've been wondering about that.
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Jul 9 2009 09:32am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 05:01am)
Yes. To increase overall vascularity you need to do several things.

1. Decrease sodium levels, increase potassium/magnesium/calcium levels...idea input should be  2g sodium/4g potassium/2g magnesium/2g calcium

2. Increase water intake - at least 1 gal a day, preferably1.5-2.

3. Increase arginine+ornithine intake (NOW! Arginine+Ornithine pills, take 3 pills every 3 hours for maximum results)

There is also a thing called sodium cycling which helps force the blood vessels to swell and expand...but I don't recommend it because its very dangerous to the body (especially the heart). This is where you take huge doses of sodium for several days straight, and then get off of it and replace it with huge doses of potassium/magnesium/calcium (2/1/1 ratio). This forces the blood vessels to expand and shocks the body in the process. Do not attempt this method.


Genetics however are the largest part....and we unfortunately can not change this.


aight ty ty ill look into getting some arginine+ornithine and getting my diet better like that as you said!
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Jul 9 2009 10:29am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 06:07am)
ok heres what you need to do:


1.  you need a more rigid diet. no more generalized turkey sandwiches and "whatever" for dinner...you need specifics.

2.  start doing 20-30 mins of cardio at the end of every workout

3. before bed, replace the apple and peanut butter with cottage cheese

4. eat every 2 hour

5 no sugar.


Diet -


meal 1 - 3 eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, 1 banana, 1 glass milk

meal 2 - protein shake or turkey sandwich

meal 3 - protein shake or tuna salad sandwich

meal 4 - 1 lean meat + large helping of green veggies

meal 5 - 1 lean meat + large helping of green veggies

meal 6 - cottage cheese + a few mixed nuts (any kind). If you can't stomach the cottage cheese, replace with casein shake (optimum is fine)


alright im going to write this down and show my parents, i put "whatever" for dinner cuz i can never tell what my moms going to make, being 15 and trying to have a strict diet sucks. regardless, sometimes my moms dinners are something of a lean meat (sometimes) because mainly the only meats i eat are turkey and chicken

thanks for the info though, helpful as usual
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Jul 9 2009 03:10pm
Quote (d2dan @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 06:24am)
i see u just said to do 20-30mins cardio after a workout
what is the difference if i do it before a workout

for instance my last 3 workout days are as follows

Tuesday 7th July total 45mins
5min skipping warm-up
25mins skipping – 250skips (~2min) then 1 min rest = total 1500 skips
5min floor to ceiling ball
500 consecutive speedball punches – no mishits
Heavy bag – 1min muck around
50 bicycles
50 crunches
50 leg raises

Wednesday 8th July 1-1.5hrs
40mins skipping
25 box jumps
50 step-ups
25 squats bodyweight
15 squats holding pine tree log

Single 10kgDumbell exercises
3 sets of 10 reps of each of the following
Clean and press
Concentration curls
Overhead shoulder press
Lying down dumbbell chest press
Exercise ball dumbbell chest press

Abs
20 sit-ups
20 in and outs
20 leg raises
20 reverse crunches
40 bicycles

20 pushups

Thursday 9th July 1.5hrs

5x rounds skipping 3min work:1min rest
2x20 box jumps onto logs
2x20 front squats with log
2x20 tricep sawhorse dips
2x20 incline pushups on saw horse
2x20 saw horse shrugs

3min rounds 1min rest in between
2x shadow boxing
2x heavy bag
2x speedball
2x floor to ceiling ball

15 sit-ups
15 crunches
15 in and outs
15 leg raises
15 bicycle



cardio after a workout burns more fat. This is because your glycogen stores are depleted after strength training and when you do cardio immediately afterwards, your body is burning pure fat, rather than glycogen first.
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Jul 10 2009 09:11am
Opinion on cardio pre-breakfast?
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Jul 10 2009 11:49am
Quote (Urbain @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 07:11am)
Opinion on cardio pre-breakfast?


If trying to lose weight that = gg

Because, instead you aren't burning calories from your breakfast.
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Jul 10 2009 09:22pm
Quote (Urbain @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 11:11am)
Opinion on cardio pre-breakfast?


morning cardio as in right after you wake up is supreme for destroying fat. however, take BCAA's prior to doing it or you risk destroying muscle as well.
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