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Jul 27 2012 08:04am
Quote (carteblanche @ Jul 27 2012 02:52am)
whats your take on the whole "organic food" craze? is it just overpriced food, should everything be bought organic, only buy it if you have extra money, only buy xyz organic and buy everything else normally, or what?


It depends. A few things to consider:


1. Organic foods, despite being organic, are also devoid of added chemicals/artificials/preservatives/etc. So if you bought organic crackers for example, there would be no junk in them.

2. Organic foods come in many different varieties. If they are certified organic from the usda, they are not treated with chemical pesticides. Some fruits/veggies are extremely porous, and absorb these chemicals easily. Any fruit/veggie with a thin skin is victim to this. IE: Berries, apples, peppers, broccoli, etc. Google the full list if you have time. Others, such as watermelon, cantaloupe, cucumbers, etc. are not a big deal and can just be washed with mild soap and water prior to cutting/eating. NOTE: You should always wash fruits/veggies with mild soap and water prior to eating to avoid bacterial contamination.

3. Organic foods are much more expensive, but potentially decrease the risk of exposure to certain chemicals that can increase the risk of certain kinds of disease. If you have plenty of money and the price doesn't matter the theory would be "why not?"


In general, I tend to buy organic foods only when it's necessary. Fruits and veggies (unless thick skinned) are always organic. I buy organic bread mostly because its just better in terms of flavor, macros, and lack of added garbage. I don't buy organic pasta, rice, or other simple items, because they are devoid of anything "unnatural" to begin with. When eating out, it doesn't matter, and I eat whatever - then again I rarely eat out due to cost and cleanliness/nutrition of food.

Bottom line - if you don't mind spending a bit extra, it may spare you certain issues in the long run.


EDIT:

I forgot to mention GMO items. This is a hot topic today about fruits/veggies that are genetically modified to be resistant to certain kinds of pesticide and herbicide.

I am on the fence about them, but I am also skeptical about the claims that there will be no long-term health issues with consuming these products. They are too new to make that judgement, and in 40 years from now, we might have people contracting diseases at alarming rates and blaming these products. So personally, if you can avoid GMO items, I would avoid those as well until better long-term research surfaces. Just food for thought.

This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Jul 27 2012 08:08am
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Jul 27 2012 09:30am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ 28 Jul 2012 00:57)
True HGH injections....could increase your bone length (height and so forth). The risk of certain diseases and cancers increases exponentially in patients with excessive growth hormone present.

Test support? As in real test injections? You would not need that at 17....but if you were to take them, you would build more muscle at the expense of angry mood swings, more acne, possible depression, and even possibly gyno symptoms without proper PCT.


I would avoid both.


Just supplements, wouldn't be injecting.
Would HGH supplements be enough to help increase height?

Also would the test supplements (pill form) be enough to improve facial hair growth, or are they a gimmick.

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Jul 27 2012 09:42am
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Just supplements, wouldn't be injecting.
Would HGH supplements be enough to help increase height?

Also would the test supplements (pill form) be enough to improve facial hair growth, or are they a gimmick.



I see where you're going with this.

Over the counter supplements for HGH do not work - don't waste your money.

Secondly, test supplements will not help you at 17 years old. Your body is already producing enough.

However, if you are suspicious that you are not producing enough test, go to a doctor and get blood work done. If your test levels, IGF/HGH levels are low - they will give you a prescription for the real stuff, which would be very helpful if you need it.
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Jul 27 2012 11:47am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ 27 Jul 2012 08:57)
30g per day.


Try psyllium husk powder. As far as switching your diet, if you can squeeze in a 130 cal bar, these are excellent:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku%5Fdetail.jsp?id=G3-1003


I snooped around and saw psyllium came in pills, specifically NOW brand, are those a fine alternate?
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Jul 27 2012 01:07pm
Hey Raynor

Counting girlfriends calories- what you think would be a good macros setup to start with / aim for


112lbs
Skinny fat
Workout with weights 2-3 times week and cardio some other days
Goal: fat loss

BMR of 1316
X1.375
About 1800

Started her with 1375 calories
155g carbs 45%
103g protein. 30%
38g fat. 25%


Should I up the fat and lower the carbs or what u think ?
She defiantly don't need more protein I could even lower that ?

Idk- whatcha think
Ty



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Jul 27 2012 02:06pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Jul 25 2012 10:49pm)
incline bench only engages about 5% of the upper chest.

decline bench engages about 20% of the lower chest.


Decline is more efficient than incline, so I'd go with that. However, a good few sets of cable flies 21's are extraordinary. 7 reps to the top, 7 to the middle, and 7 to the bottom.....excellent pump hits all angles of the chest.



edit:: pec-deck is also decent for widening the chest.



what is the cable placement for this? standing with cables at shoulder height or something?
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Jul 27 2012 06:56pm
Hey raynor , I kno u prolly helpd me with this b4, but I forgot, and ive been slackin lately.

But.. I recently got alot of food and im ready to cut.

Im 5 10 and about 203 atm, and want to get down to 185 or so.

I also think Im gonna try IF , fasting method. (you can give your thoughts on this if you want)

How much calories should I be looking at to cut?

il be working out 5 day split, with maybe some cardio, il walk at the very least for "cardio"


just want to know how much calories and what my diet should look like, Ty
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Jul 28 2012 08:05am
Quote (xVanished @ Jul 27 2012 01:47pm)
I snooped around and saw psyllium came in pills, specifically NOW brand, are those a fine alternate?


Yes, but you'd have to take quite a few
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Jul 28 2012 08:11am
Quote (45sz @ Jul 27 2012 03:07pm)
Hey Raynor

Counting girlfriends calories-  what you think would be a good macros setup to start with / aim for


112lbs
Skinny fat
Workout  with weights 2-3 times week and cardio some other days
Goal: fat loss

BMR of 1316
      X1.375
    About 1800

Started her with 1375 calories
155g carbs  45%
103g protein. 30%
38g fat.  25%


Should I up the fat and lower the carbs or what u think ?
She defiantly don't need more protein I could even lower that ?

Idk-  whatcha think
Ty



If she eats 1375 cals @ 112 bodyweight, even on non-workout days, will probably achieve very slow fat loss, unless she has a relatively fast metabolism.

Here is what I would suggest.

1,200 cals every non-workout day, and 1,350 on workout days.

40/40/20 macros or 45/30/25 macros as you mentioned above.

Avoid sugar, except from fruit....and keep her generally active if possible.


She should lose around 1/2 lb per week, which at 112 is pretty rapid.
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Jul 28 2012 08:12am
Quote (*StyLuS* @ Jul 27 2012 04:06pm)
what is the cable placement for this? standing with cables at shoulder height or something?


Upper means with cables at the top and squeezing down similar to a "most muscular" pose

Middle means with cables in the middle, recreating a fly (hugging a barrel)

Lower means with cable at the bottom, lifting them up like a curl, but without flexing the bicep, keeping the arms straight except for a slight bend in the elbow, and flexing the chest the whole way.
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