Yes, i also did a few years of martial arts, and even though patriot is bigger than alpha, alpha is WAY stronger. I would bet on alpha over patriot every single time.

while there is also alot of truth to this, and in this current situation it benefits me, but size isnt everything, there are plenty of lethal/fierce moves that can be done to larger opponents to defeat them without even breaking a sweat. especially if your fast and flexible.


everyone in the gym can outbench me. yet i completely utterly destroy them when we spar. i outhink most people. i out endure others who i cant outthink and i outpower those who i can, if i cant do it one way, ill find alot of others, mainly my advantage over everyone here is my giant arsenal.

This post was edited by xx_puner_xx on Jun 10 2013 09:03pm

Yes placed 6th at nationals

Wrestled varsity all throughout high school and college placing in the conference each year

I also am ridiculously strong for my weight lol I think you're underestimating me...

If you cut down to my bodyfat% I doubt you'd have more than 15 lbs on me which is nothing considering the amount of strength I have



Gonna be tough to hit 170 but with proper training and diet it definitely is possible

College wrestling set me back a lot...I actually wrestled 133 last year so I've gained a good amount of weight since then

This post was edited by Alpha on Jun 10 2013 09:05pm

Yes, lol.

If it were at least some sort of ruled fight etc, when there were only blows allowed (like karate, boxing, etc) a smaller guy could at least try to stand his ground being faster etc, but once grappling, grabbing, etc, is allowed, a guy who has 100 lbs on you is impossible to beat.

Not to mention when you punch somebody who's 300 lbs, damaging an organ is almost impossible.

ok well , thats pretty reputable i actually also placed 6th place at cincinatti nationals and was supposed to go to fargo, but i moved to bosnia.
and i guess i was underestimating you a little, but it wouldnt really make a difference because pure wrestling is not going to beat someone up :/
i remember trying to fight someone when i wrestlied, all i did was double leg them and take them to the ground after that i didnt know what to do. but it was a school fight anyway and they just broke us up lol.

This post was edited by xx_puner_xx on Jun 10 2013 09:06pm

I'd also bet on this little tank of a man. Guy looks hard as a rock every time I see a pic.

royce gracie.

Yea I understand that but if I were to learn just the basics of bjj and striking it would be a very tough fight for you and even then without learning the basics I still know how to defend myself and can hit hard as fuck

unless you rock them very hard in the jaw/temple, and unless your an experienced fighter your gaurd will not be where it should be

Weight helps a lot even when it's only fat though. And you'd have to take into account that you're pretty experienced in grappling, but you aren't in stand-up fighting (I'm guessing)

Anyway this discussion could be endless. Fuck it



Royece was not a little guy, though, and were talking about a guy who's been probably one of the best 5 fighters of the century lol

This post was edited by ThomasPaine on Jun 10 2013 09:10pm