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May 10 2012 10:04am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ May 10 2012 09:56am)
1. The peanut butter you can find at Publix or other grocery stores (naturally more) and they have regular and organic, I'd vote for regular. As for power pb, check out bodybuilding.com for that, or just google shopping it.
2. It's not crippling, but it's certainly a setback, especially for meal one. Just throw a scoop of whey in the oats, or drink a 20g shake with it just to get some protein in you after the long fast.
3. The only protein bars that I use are VPX Zero Impact bars. I think these are among the healthiest, best tasting, and most complete bar out there. With regard to making my own, I have no patience for baking lol.
4. With regard to cutting down bf%, you have two approaches....the keto approach, or the severe calorie deficit approach. Either way sucks, but I prefer keto. However, you can eat virtually anything as long as your macros are somewhat in order. AKA 40P/30C/30F. Obviously also take a multi and use protein shakes as necessary to fill the void. The pizza is certainly not a bad choice for cutting without keto. A keto alternative for pizza would be meatzza. To make that, take ground beef and cheese, mix together in a bowl, season it, spread it out over a cookie sheet and bake 450degrees for about 15-20 mins until it starts crisping on the outside. Then add more cheese on top, and broil at 500 degrees until melted. Take out and viola! zero carb pizza.
5. The issue with carbs before bed and other times of inactivity is that when your glycogen stores are full, and you ingest more carbs, the excess will be stored as fat - plain and simple. When you take in protein or fat when your glycogen stores are full, the protein will be broken down into individual aminos and allocated as necessary. The fats work in a similar way. Will protein and fat make you gain fat if you eat too many over your calories? YES. But carbs will more rapidly increase fat gains when glycogen stores are full. Keto is extremely effective because it switches the body over to fats as it's source of energy and not carbs. The goal is to burn fat right? So when you are fasting and have no glycogen, (when you sleep) the body is burning fat as it's energy, rather than glycogen.


1. What do you think about having a scoop of peanut butter that you mentioned thrown in the oatmeal? Or perhaps 2 (too much calories?) ... I mix in cinnamon and about a teaspoon and half of organic brown sugar.
2. Those zero impact bars w/ 400+ cals? The stats look like its more delicious than healthy :P It's contents are well made, and you're right, no junk in em. I'm wondering if I should use them as meal replacements (or add some side of veggies with them) ... Or would it be better to have a low carb shake using my unflavored almond milk + one scoop unflavored + one scoop chocolate isopures? The calories in the bar is about 110-140 more, and has all that fat added in, and less protein. But it looks so yummy. I tend to also add in organic flax seed in the shake (makes the shake taste like shit ... I'm wondering if the benefits are even legit). It has the fiber protein and supposed omegas ... eh
3. Your idea for the sub pizza is amazing haha. I think I'll get some organic 90/10 meat and give it a shot. So I guess having cheese doesn't ruin the bf ... THATS GOOD TO KNOW

Let me see if I have any more questions regarding the diet itself (keto). I like eating whatever I want, severe calorie cutting isn't my route. Perhaps you have a sample keto?
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May 10 2012 11:44am
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1. What do you think about having a scoop of peanut butter that you mentioned thrown in the oatmeal? Or perhaps 2 (too much calories?) ... I mix in cinnamon and about a teaspoon and half of organic brown sugar.
2. Those zero impact bars w/ 400+ cals? The stats look like its more delicious than healthy :P It's contents are well made, and you're right, no junk in em. I'm wondering if I should use them as meal replacements (or add some side of veggies with them) ... Or would it be better to have a low carb shake using my unflavored almond milk + one scoop unflavored + one scoop chocolate isopures? The calories in the bar is about 110-140 more, and has all that fat added in, and less protein. But it looks so yummy. I tend to also add in organic flax seed in the shake (makes the shake taste like shit ... I'm wondering if the benefits are even legit). It has the fiber protein and supposed omegas ... eh
3. Your idea for the sub pizza is amazing haha. I think I'll get some organic 90/10 meat and give it a shot. So I guess having cheese doesn't ruin the bf ... THATS GOOD TO KNOW

Let me see if I have any more questions regarding the diet itself (keto). I like eating whatever I want, severe calorie cutting isn't my route. Perhaps you have a sample keto?



1. It's fine if you can mange your calories accordingly...however for protein, peanut butter is not ideal.
2. The VPX bars are meal replacements, consider that in your judgement. The shake idea is good too, but not nearly as filling, or tasty. The VPX bars taste great and have an excellent macro breakdown.
3. Cheese and beef are keystones of ketosis. If you ever choose to do keto, consider this.
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May 10 2012 01:36pm
Diet soda ok while cutting?
My sodium intake is WELL under 2000. So I don't see it being a problem
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May 10 2012 03:45pm
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Diet soda ok while cutting?
My sodium intake is WELL under 2000.  So I don't see it being a problem


It should be fine...but I don't advise the artificial sweeteners


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=367577416
Diet Soda and Water explained

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May 10 2012 05:13pm
I do a lot of things right when it comes to my body. I was thinking of a minor calorie deficit in addition to going 40/30/30 and letting my body do the rest of the work and see if I can drop both weight and cut down the bf% further.

I think I'm currently at 183 + or - 1 lb, and at about 11.5-12% bf

I workout 3 times a week, ideally. I always get the proper amount of water in (at least 4L) ... I don't drink alcohol, etc.

I just like to eat my half pizzas thin crust, chicken breasts that are breaded in the toaster, and oatmeal ; ]

Having the zero impact bars as "emergency" can be a good idea also? I eat every 2-3 hours
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May 10 2012 06:26pm
is it fine if I eat 2 apples per day?

can't go 1 day without a fruit
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May 10 2012 08:32pm
Quote (necrofearme @ May 10 2012 07:13pm)
I do a lot of things right when it comes to my body. I was thinking of a minor calorie deficit in addition to going 40/30/30 and letting my body do the rest of the work and see if I can drop both weight and cut down the bf% further.

I think I'm currently at 183 + or - 1 lb, and at about 11.5-12% bf

I workout 3 times a week, ideally. I always get the proper amount of water in (at least 4L) ... I don't drink alcohol, etc.

I just like to eat my half pizzas thin crust, chicken breasts that are breaded in the toaster, and oatmeal ; ]

Having the zero impact bars as "emergency" can be a good idea also?  I eat every 2-3 hours


Yes, they would be helpful.
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May 10 2012 08:32pm
Quote (bena2005 @ May 10 2012 08:26pm)
is it fine if I eat 2 apples per day?

can't go 1 day without a fruit


As long as you aren't on KETO, and it's within your caloric and macro parameters, then it's perfectly fine.
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May 11 2012 11:25am
Hey Raynor,
For your keeping muscle mass while cutting/6 workouts a week workout, do I do 5 sets in total, or do I do 5 sets of starting at max and dropping it down each time, then repeating for the next set?
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May 11 2012 10:58pm
Quote (yCoRrUpT @ May 11 2012 01:25pm)
Hey Raynor,
For your keeping muscle mass while cutting/6 workouts a week workout, do I do 5 sets in total, or do I do 5 sets of starting at max and dropping it down each time, then repeating for the next set?


5 sets total.
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