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Apr 25 2012 07:10pm
Quote (bena2005 @ Apr 24 2012 07:51pm)
sup raynor
cardio before or after workout?


for fat loss, POST WORKOUT is best. Your glycogen stores are already depleted, so PWO HIIT cardio is superior.
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Apr 25 2012 07:15pm
Quote (Betrayed @ Apr 24 2012 11:45pm)
Hi.
I am a volleyball and soccer player since almost 12 years now for soccer and 4 for volleyball.
I'd like to get a program or just an eating program so i could lose a bit of weight and gain maybe more muscle.
Im going to admit that i am a total noob at this stuff so if i ask u some questions that sounds rediculous, pardon me as i am also french :P

Atm, i am 16, 5'10 and around 160lbs
I am not 'fat', because since im doing alot of sports, you can see a big difference between others' muscles and mine, but i'd like to get them stronger to be more performant as i am playing im elite teams
Since maybe 1 year, i see that i took alot of weight (passed from 5'5 to 5'10 and passed from 130 to 160), and im thinking it may as to do with me eating ALOT more than before.
It seems like i am always hungry and it bothers me a bit because i cant control myself from eating...
Yes i am probably losing some of it since im in sports 4+ days a week, but i still feel like i could lose some weight and gain more muscles to jump higher and to smash harder in volleyball, and just to run faster in soccer.

I may even consider trying to get a 6pack but that will come in time.
I also need to say that i have alot of injuries due to me being... A bit extreme in sports.
Since im always in a gymnase or on a field, they cant 'repair' so fast, so would u have any stretching or any advices about those ? :)

Atm im not training myself but im starting soon also



There's a lot of conflict here in your questions.

Do you want to lose fat, gain muscle, improve flexibility, improve recovery, decrease injuries, or improve your overall skill and performance with regard to sports? You can NOT have everything, there is no way to do that. So you will need to prioritize everything in order of which you want to do them. Given that you are only 16 years old, you are still growing. You shouldn't worry too much about a full cutting cycle, but maybe just eating properly and continuing with your training as usual. Here's a sample meal plan for a person who is as active as you at your age:

3,000 cal diet lean bulking diet would be 300g carbs, 300g protein, and 70g fat.


A sample meal plan for you would be:


Meal 1 - 3 whole eggs + 1 cup oatmeal + 1 large serving of fruit (any type)
Meal 2 - 2 slices whole grain bread w/ 4-6 oz sliced low-sodium meat (turkey/chicken/ham) and cheese (2% reduced fat and low sodium) w/ veggies made into a sandwich
Meal 3 - Protein Shake (any brand, make sure to get approx 40g protein) + 1 large serving of fruit + handful of mixed nuts
Meal 4 - 1 large chicken breast or lean steak + 1 cup brown rice + 1/2 cup black beans + large serving of veggies
Meal 5 - 1 can of tuna + whole grain crackers + mayo/mustard + veggies or salad
Meal 6 - 1 cup cottage cheese + cinnamon + mixed nuts

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Apr 25 2012 07:15pm
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Also another question . Cutting will improve bicep peak correct? as well as muscle tone?


Peak? No. Tone? Yes.

Peak is achieved through proper training and particularly focusing on the peak during hypertrophic exercises. Cutting gives the ILLUSION of better peaks, but actual peaks do not change.
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Apr 25 2012 07:16pm
Quote (dgkblack @ Apr 25 2012 08:26pm)
Went for a blood test recently.  Are my test levels normal?

613 ng/dl


That's right in the middle of "normal" levels for a male. What is your age?
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Apr 25 2012 07:18pm
Quote (EverNineAfter @ Apr 25 2012 08:59pm)
the protein doesn't matter? could you elaborate more on this how come ?


Chick peas are an INCOMPLETE protein, meaning they contain less than the 9 essential aminos. Thus, by themselves, they are virtually useless for protein content. Animal proteins by comparison are almost always 100% complete proteins.
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Apr 25 2012 07:19pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Apr 26 2012 01:16am)
That's right in the middle of "normal" levels for a male. What is your age?


18. I was concerned it might be a little low for my age.

My cholesterol came out at 169 as well. could it have to do with the fact that i'm consuming like 6 eggs a day? lol

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Quote (SKCRaynor @ Apr 26 2012 01:15am)
Peak? No. Tone? Yes.

Peak is achieved through proper training and particularly focusing on the peak during hypertrophic exercises. Cutting gives the ILLUSION of better peaks, but actual peaks do not change.


im just worried about cutting too soon. skeptical about how i will look once cut. i am 17%bf 6 feet 3 in 210lbs (LBM of around 180lbs). I have been lifting for a while but not bulking. I have just been lifting to gain strength and some size.
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Apr 25 2012 08:09pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Apr 25 2012 09:10pm)
Hey there.

1. You need to be doing a VERY strict cutting routine to drop the fat. Immediately after you reach 7%, you will begin hypertrophy with a maintenance diet on non-workout days, and a 300 cal surplus on workout days. You will maintain the leanness, but start enhancing your volume. Follow this pattern:

CUTTING (UNTIL 7%) -

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine (6 day all equipment)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine


HYPERTROPHY (ONCE YOU REACH 7%) -

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345358141
Hypertrophy Plan 3-on-1-off (regular)



2. In regard to cardio, follow the above cutting plan. You need around 30 mins HIIT per day and 60 mins on your non-workout day.

3. Diet is the hardest part. You will need around 1,500 cals a day. However you need to keep your protein up, and to keep volume, carbs need to be present, so low-fat high protein and moderate carb is the way to go. I'd say 40/35/25 is the best method during your cut. That means APPROXIMATELY 150g protein, 130g carbs, and 40g fat. This will be very little food, but it's just enough to sustain you and also get you cut down to where you want to be.

4. Remember to keep the activity level as high as possible.The more activity the faster you will burn fat.

5. CAFFEINE IS YOUR FRIEND!! Don't overdo it, but certainly use it as needed.

6. Drink enough water, less water = more water retention. Drink plenty of water to stay hydrated and also to stay clean and dry. If you want to get super dry (pre-contest) I will explain that separately....but for now, this will suit your 7% purposes.


Alright thanks ray.
So veggies and caffeine will be my best friends haha!
Could you write me a sample diet using these foods and this template please:

Chicken
Eggs

Almonds
Olive oil
Swiss cheese

Brown rice
WW pasta
Red skin potatoe

Veggies
- green beans, broccoli, kale, asparagus, spinach, organic baby carrots.
Fruit
- banana, pineapple
Supps:
- whey, 3-6-9s, orange triad multi.

Those are the foods I eat/ buy in bulk. Lol. I hope those choices will work.


Meal 1:
Meal 2(Post workout):
Meal 3:
Meal 4:
Meal 5:
Meal 6: 1-2 scoops casein\+?


Thanks a lot Ray, this is going to be fun lol

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Apr 25 2012 08:38pm
Quote (dgkblack @ Apr 25 2012 09:19pm)
18.  I was concerned it might be a little low for my age.

My cholesterol came out at 169 as well.  could it have to do with the fact that i'm consuming like 6 eggs a day? lol


was that cholesterol LDL or HDL?

also, eggs have no impact on your cholesterol levels. Cholesterol levels are influenced by saturated fats compared to unsaturated fats. You need at least 2g of unsaturated fats to every 1g of saturated fats in your diet. Try adding NOW! Super Omega 3-6-9 (2-3 caps with every meal).

Also your test level is fine.
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Apr 25 2012 08:39pm
Quote (nikky @ Apr 25 2012 09:20pm)
im just worried about cutting too soon. skeptical about how i will look once cut. i am 17%bf 6 feet 3 in 210lbs (LBM of around 180lbs). I have been lifting for a while but not bulking. I have just been lifting to gain strength and some size.


You will not have a problem cutting. 17% is just right to begin a cut. Once you cut, you will TEMPORARILY lose strength, but will gain it back shortly after starting bulking again.
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