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#13491
May 28 2013 08:31pm
Quote (TheOak @ May 28 2013 10:15pm)
Thanks m8

No plans to ever take any drugs, I currently dont even like the look of what they create.

Look "better" is a tough one because yea I look bigger/healthy but the judges want glutes on stage so I look "better" now :P



I did 531 for bench/squat/dead/ohp
but kept a hypertrophy assistance work.

Tbh the routine is very plain and is based upon progressive overload, not sure how someone could argue against it.

That being said, I do plan on increase my volume this offseason as well as get into some powerlifting so should make for some fun time.



Although this is true, I dont feel that staying fairly lean hindered my gains in any sort. 
I got up to 187lbs which is plenty heavy enough for my 5'9 frame and 24lbs over my stage weight


ofc ofc

i meant more, i prefer your off stage look more than ur on stage look

if i remember correctly 11-12% bf you were looking pretty joocy

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#13492
May 28 2013 08:56pm
oh my god TheOak, are you taking steroids? u look good
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#13493
May 28 2013 09:06pm
Quote (TheOak @ May 28 2013 09:57pm)
I'm just not sure you understand what a reasonable amount of muscle gain is in a years time for a natural trainee who competes yearly in bodybuilding....

Maybe your right, im sure they not "the best" but I personally am more than happy with my progress.  Only thing lacking is TIME.  This is why I plan to take 2014 off from stage, that way I can stay away from long term dieting and spend more time growing.



yours are always expected ;)

dnt be shy... its a forum, voice your opinion brah


dude you see Matt ogus this year? looks incredibly better then last year
not taking yours away but dude If ogus cake can get that much better / different so can you man!
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May 28 2013 09:08pm
Quote (Tear @ May 29 2013 03:06am)
dude you see Matt ogus this year? looks incredibly better then last year
not taking yours away but dude If ogus cake can get that much better / different so can you man!


Genetics also plays a role in this

everyone is a bit different
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#13495
May 28 2013 10:06pm
Quote (TheOak @ May 28 2013 09:57pm)
I'm just not sure you understand what a reasonable amount of muscle gain is in a years time for a natural trainee who competes yearly in bodybuilding....

Maybe your right, im sure they not "the best" but I personally am more than happy with my progress.  Only thing lacking is TIME.  This is why I plan to take 2014 off from stage, that way I can stay away from long term dieting and spend more time growing.



yours are always expected ;)

dnt be shy... its a forum, voice your opinion brah


How much muscle would you say you have gained?

I feel like 12 lbs of lean muscle per year should be achievable if you're putting your all into it (and that's just for someone my size imo)

Also feel like you did well with your bulk but ended up losing some muscle on your cut (maybe not enough protein or not lifting heavy enough?)

I'd def take a year off if I were you and really focus on getting your lifts up while gaining size and just become strong as fuark
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May 29 2013 02:17am


giant, should start cutting for summer.
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#13497
May 29 2013 05:02am
Quote (uwot @ May 28 2013 09:56pm)
oh my god TheOak, are you taking steroids? u look good


notevenonce


Quote (Tear @ May 28 2013 10:06pm)
dude you see Matt ogus this year? looks incredibly better then last year
not taking yours away but dude If ogus cake can get that much better / different so can you man!


Maybe you are confused that his last prep was actually 2011?
Thats two years worth of progress....
not to mention his video/pic editing process and how he has access to some great minds/coaches

Quote (Alpha @ May 28 2013 11:06pm)
How much muscle would you say you have gained?

I feel like 12 lbs of lean muscle per year should be achievable if you're putting your all into it (and that's just for someone my size imo)

Also feel like you did well with your bulk but ended up losing some muscle on your cut (maybe not enough protein or not lifting heavy enough?)

I'd def take a year off if I were you and really focus on getting your lifts up while gaining size and just become strong as fuark


12lbs? are you fuking kidding me lmao?

I cant put a number on it but I can definitely say I am leaner and stronger this year than last.
I dont think I've lost much muscle mass because my strength has been its best since prep than it ever has.

Are all these neg opinions manifesting over just the 1 front double bi?


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May 29 2013 06:55am


Getting larger! Sitting around 200lb still, but been toning a bit & trading fat for muscle.
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May 29 2013 09:31am
Quote (Mitchymo @ May 29 2013 08:55am)
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg129/migi011/20130528_230433.jpg

Getting larger! Sitting around 200lb still, but been toning a bit & trading fat for muscle.


what sort of fat:muscle ratio do you get at the market? ive been getting shitty deals lately
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#13500
May 29 2013 10:18am
Quote (powwpoww @ May 29 2013 04:17am)
http://i.imgur.com/HKCd52r.jpg

giant, should start cutting for summer.


holy poverty potato

or was it a toaster?

This post was edited by dendo12689 on May 29 2013 10:19am
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