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Apr 9 2009 05:35pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Wed, Apr 8 2009, 11:02pm)
depends. The way to do it successfully is work out on a 2-hour fast - follow it up with 45 mins of aggressive cardio to burn a bit more fat if you feel that you are gaining too much.

In addition, you will need to lower your caloric intake - you are obviously taking in more calories than your body needs. Lower the carbohydrates, keep the protein and fat the same.


ok thanks

and thanks for ur imput burns :)
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Apr 9 2009 05:46pm
hey there

i'm going to be going on a cycle of accutane soon (a relatively serious acne medication)

i'm told some side effects i should expect are joint and muscle aches. are there any supplements i could take to alleviate these symptoms? also, do you have any other advice for someone who is going to be on a cycle of accutane?
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Quote (CuteKoala @ Thu, Apr 9 2009, 11:46pm)
hey there

i'm going to be going on a cycle of accutane soon (a relatively serious acne medication)

i'm told some side effects i should expect are joint and muscle aches. are there any supplements i could take to alleviate these symptoms? also, do you have any other advice for someone who is going to be on a cycle of accutane?


Not to steal his thunder, but when I had joint aches, I included glucosamine in my morning vitamins.

But I'm here to actually ask him a quick question more about bcaas.

I'm taking them before and after workout, and before bed right now (no cottage cheese).

I've read of people taking them after waking up too, since the bottle I have will last me till the end of the semester, do you think I should do that too?
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Quote (rustyo486 @ Fri, Apr 10 2009, 03:06am)
Not to steal his thunder, but when I had joint aches, I included glucosamine in my morning vitamins.

But I'm here to actually ask him a quick question more about bcaas.

I'm taking them before and after workout, and before bed right now (no cottage cheese).

I've read of people taking them after waking up too, since the bottle I have will last me till the end of the semester, do you think I should do that too?




Hey there -

Ok for both points:


Joint Pain from medication - Try glucosamine, condroiton, MSM complex - I reccomend Universal Animal Flex - Great product!


Bcaas - Ok let me explain. It is best to wake up and do any of the following:

1. Take fat burner with a lot of water, eat meal or shake 30-45 mins later (good for cutting)
2. Take 2-4g bcaas, do cardio for 30-45 mins,eat meal or shake after cardio (better for cutting)
3. Tkae 2-4g bcaas, take fat burner, do cardio for 30-45 mins, eat meal or shake after cardio (best for cutting)


However if you are bulking...best option is to wake up and eat right away...don't waste time...get food and water in your system immediately. Best option for morning bulk =

1. Wake up, drink 12-16 oz fruit juice, take creatine, eat eggs + oatmeal + bacon + milk, take supps.
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Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sun, Jul 27 2008, 07:19pm)
It's certainly a start...however - I would certainly like to suggest a few changes.

First of all, save cottage cheese for your bedtime snack...it digestly slowly and has no carbs. Your body needs 80% of your total carb intake in the first few hours upon rising to fuel your day (slow acting carbs - aka complex).

Also try to eat every 2 hours...3 hours MAXIMUM.

Furthermore, 60g of protein in one consumption is too much unless you weigh 300 lbs. 20% of your bodyweight in pounds to grams of protein is the ideal number to hit per meal. Example - 200 lb man would need 40 grams of protein every 2-3 hours for a total of 240 - 320 grams of protein per day with roughly 40 grams per meal.  Any more than this will likely be wasted by the body (or stored as fat) whereas less than this can lead to catabolism of muscle (BAD BAD BAD!).

Heres a sample meal plan for you.

Breakfast - Oatmeal and 3 whole eggs (the only meal you're allowed to have less than your quota of protein and a high dose of carbs)
meal 2 - 30 gram protein shake
meal 3 - tuna fish on a salad
meal 4 - chicken breast and broccoli
meal 5 - 30 gram protein shake
meal 6 - 1 cup cottage cheese and almonds w/ cinnamon (delicious before bedtime)

hope this helps!


Where did u here this? Protein will never lead to catabolism and the consumption of protein for it to spill over is ridiculously high.
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Where did u here this? Protein will never lead to catabolism and the consumption of protein for it to spill over is ridiculously high.


I think you misunderstood.
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Quote (Tear @ Tue, Apr 7 2009, 11:12pm)
I honeslty cant remember the last time my biceps are sore, and i go the hardest on them.

why is this.. i want them sore but it never happens :( and each time there not sore i go harder and harder and harder...

help?


Soreness does not mean you got a good work out. You just need to stimulate them in the gym enough to require being repaired.
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Apr 11 2009 12:28pm
Quote (sslink24 @ Sat, Apr 11 2009, 02:20am)
Where did u here this? Protein will never lead to catabolism and the consumption of protein for it to spill over is ridiculously high.


before you get defensive...please RE-READ what I say...

I said:


"Any more than this (referring to 320g protein for a 200 lb man) will likely be wasted by the body (or stored as fat) whereas less than this (Notice, I said LESS than this meaning less than 200g) can lead to catabolism of muscle (BAD BAD BAD!)."


Therefore here is what was said. Over 320g of protein for a 200lb man (average activity level) can get converted and used as glycogen - thus stored as fat.

Any amount of protein UNDER 200g can lead to muscle catabolism because of NOT ENOUGH protein.


So please read next time <3
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Apr 11 2009 12:33pm
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Sat, Apr 11 2009, 11:41am)
Soreness does not mean you got a good work out. You just need to stimulate them in the gym enough to require being repaired.


This is absolutely right - muscle soreness is usually an indicator of a solid workout in which muscle fibers have been broken down enough to synonymously stimulate increased lactic acid production
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Apr 11 2009 05:32pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Apr 11 2009, 10:28am)


"Any more than this (referring to 320g protein for a 200 lb man) will likely be wasted by the body (or stored as fat) whereas less than this (Notice, I said LESS than this meaning less than 200g) can lead to catabolism of muscle (BAD BAD BAD!)."

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My bad there I was just grazing and saw that and was like Wtf. But I' m still curious about the bolded statement, As far as I know its extremely rare for protein to spill over and be stored as fat.
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