Quote (NMU @ Jan 20 2013 11:12pm)

you act like there arent bigger guys who lift but can sprint quickly too. as it turns out, both weight lifting and sprinting involve the same type of fast twitch muscle fiber.

are you surprised that you can sprint fast if you have even a decent squat/deadlift?

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Jan 20 2013 08:49pm)

i would like to rage from a lot of what i have been reading over like the past 30 pages, but fuck, it's not worth arguing with those that are psychologically impaired

Quote (TheOak @ Jan 21 2013 12:22am)

not that I want to keep the argument going but



all the kids @ my hs claimed 4.5 40s... I decided to play football my senior year and played RB/DE & all special teams
I was far from great but played/practiced hard and listened to my coaches.

I could beat majority of those kids in a race and I ran a whopping legit 4.9 40

Balla did u get D1 offers for FB?  4.7 40 @ 240lbs you would have at least a couple offers because even if you lacked raw athleticism/talent they would want to use u as a piece of meat.

tl;dr <4.8 40 in hs = legit 5.00 ... you can tell which kids are actually fast when you line up with them

Quote (TheOak @ Jan 21 2013 04:22am)

not that I want to keep the argument going but



all the kids @ my hs claimed 4.5 40s... I decided to play football my senior year and played RB/DE & all special teams
I was far from great but played/practiced hard and listened to my coaches.

I could beat majority of those kids in a race and I ran a whopping legit 4.9 40

Balla did u get D1 offers for FB?  4.7 40 @ 240lbs you would have at least a couple offers because even if you lacked raw athleticism/talent they would want to use u as a piece of meat.

tl;dr <4.8 40 in hs = legit 5.00 ... you can tell which kids are actually fast when you line up with them

Quote (Hysteria @ Jan 21 2013 07:12am)

You're right on the money. Also to the other people, I don't mind taking 5 minutes out of my day to post about this. I'm here anyways, might as well chime in on something I actually know about.

The reason I say it's likely bs is because I went to countless showcases for my respective sport and saw literally thousands of players. You know how many players out of the 200+ at each showcase ran sub 6.7 60's which can roughly translate into a 4.7 or so.. like 2-3 kids. Let's not forget not one of them was taller than like 5'8. Once in blue moon there'd be a big guy running a sub 6.7 and scouts pants would get tight even if they weren't fundamentally good.

Also, out of all the 40s and 60s I had to run, it was interesting to see how much a minor change in conditions could affect your time. One showcase they wanted us to wear their shirts and it ended up being a little big on me. My shirt acted like the parachute behind race cars and my legit 6.5 turned into a 6.9. Grass too soft from rain, slowed me down. Even too much too eat for breakfast felt like it did me in. Not wearing my super light nike metal cleats... definitely wasn't running my top time. If I didn't consistently practice running the damn thing I would see my time slow down. So I also find it a bit farfetched that someone will claim to continue running a 4.7 after having packed on 40 pounds of fat and muscle and not running the thing for 2 years.

And of course here on hnf you have to prove everything. Especially with a spotty history.

And just to cut down on the spam a little I'll throw in a pic...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8549/hammerpc.jpg

Quote (Hysteria @ Jan 21 2013 10:12am)

You're right on the money. Also to the other people, I don't mind taking 5 minutes out of my day to post about this. I'm here anyways, might as well chime in on something I actually know about.

The reason I say it's likely bs is because I went to countless showcases for my respective sport and saw literally thousands of players. You know how many players out of the 200+ at each showcase ran sub 6.7 60's which can roughly translate into a 4.7 or so.. like 2-3 kids. Let's not forget not one of them was taller than like 5'8. Once in blue moon there'd be a big guy running a sub 6.7 and scouts pants would get tight even if they weren't fundamentally good.

Also, out of all the 40s and 60s I had to run, it was interesting to see how much a minor change in conditions could affect your time. One showcase they wanted us to wear their shirts and it ended up being a little big on me. My shirt acted like the parachute behind race cars and my legit 6.5 turned into a 6.9. Grass too soft from rain, slowed me down. Even too much too eat for breakfast felt like it did me in. Not wearing my super light nike metal cleats... definitely wasn't running my top time. If I didn't consistently practice running the damn thing I would see my time slow down. So I also find it a bit farfetched that someone will claim to continue running a 4.7 after having packed on 40 pounds of fat and muscle and not running the thing for 2 years.

And of course here on hnf you have to prove everything. Especially with a spotty history.

And just to cut down on the spam a little I'll throw in a pic...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8549/hammerpc.jpg

Quote (cseitz71690 @ Jan 21 2013 06:53pm)

Enough Balla talk.

Let's talk about my side chest pose

http://i49.tinypic.com/2pyvoes.jpg