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Oct 17 2011 09:54pm
Freeweight exercises that replace the need for a GHR (Glute Ham Raise) device? Or is a GHR actually pretty necessary?

Thanks :)

(btw, I ordered the press and the curl attachment :D )

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Oct 17 2011 10:30pm
Also, since I got that multipress (which does all different angles), do you think the need for a pec dec is eliminated since I have a machine-motion press? Or is a pec dec still going to be just as useful since it's an entirely different motion?

I'm thinking a pec dec may not be a possibility, so I'm measuring out and figuring out my final piece.

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Oct 17 2011 11:06pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Oct 17 2011 11:54pm)
Freeweight exercises that replace the need for a GHR (Glute Ham Raise) device? Or is a GHR actually pretty necessary?

Thanks :)

(btw, I ordered the press and the curl attachment :D )



For building glute and ham strength you can also rely on straight leg deadlifts and laying leg curls.



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Also, since I got that multipress (which does all different angles), do you think the need for a pec dec is eliminated since I have a machine-motion press? Or is a pec dec still going to be just as useful since it's an entirely different motion?

I'm thinking a pec dec may not be a possibility, so I'm measuring out and figuring out my final piece.

[/going broke]



Pec deck is much more for sculpting and widening the chest. It recreates a fly. If you have a bench with freeweight dumbbells and do flies, you should be fine without it. If not, you need to be able to do flies.
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Oct 17 2011 11:11pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Oct 17 2011 10:06pm)
For building glute and ham strength you can also rely on straight leg deadlifts and laying leg curls.

Pec deck is much more for sculpting and widening the chest. It recreates a fly. If you have a bench with freeweight dumbbells and do flies, you should be fine without it. If not, you need to be able to do flies.


Thanks. Someone mentioned something about lower side back muscles: I'm guessing SLD's will cover that?

As for pecs: yep, I do have a bench and dumbbells. My whole collection is pretty large now (dumbbells from 5-50 with three tier rack, working on up to 100), Hoist 1000lb limit bench, squat cage, high/low pulley, the attachment and machine you recommended, olympic barbells and weights, leg curl/extension attachment, and all the little extras (ab rollers, ez curl bar, skip rope, exercise balls, cable attachments, squat belt, dip belt, etc... list goes on for tiny stuff). May still have room for something more. Kinda going crazy on the whole thing... but it's healthy and keeps me in the gym (sleeping in my gym since it's my bedroom). Lol.

Really still admiring this squatting device that I linked before. Think I might be able to get it for $300. But you did mention it's more of an accessory: just to check again, since I have space for one more thing and probably $300-ish to spend... think I should aim for something different? I'm thinking I may just leave some breathing room in my room so it's not suuuuper packed. :P

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Oct 18 2011 07:51am
Your thoughts about intermittent fasting, have you tried it?
www.leangains.com for more information etc

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Oct 18 2011 09:52am
CL Orange Triad (3x pills 2 times a day with meals)
NOW! Vitamin d-3 5,000iu (1x pill once a day)
NOW! C-1000 (1x pill 4 times a day separated from the multi)
NOW! L-arginine + Ornithine (4x pills post workout, and pre bedtime)
NOW! L-Carnitine (1x pill 3x per day on an empty stomach)
Optimum Nutrition BCAA-1000 caps (take 4-6 capsules pre workout, intra workout at 45 mins, and post workout)
Scifit Kre Alkalyn (take 2x pre workout and post workout, on nonworkout days take 2x in the am and 2x in the pm)
Scifit glutalyn (if you get this for free with kre alk, take 2x post workout and 2x pre bedtime)
NOW! ZMA (take 3x pre-bedtime)
NOW! Super Omega 3-6-9 (take 2x with every food meal)



That's the list you gave me. What joint support supplement do you recommend?

Oh and also what would you prefer, NOW! Whey Protein Isolate 10lbs (25 bucks cheaper, but tastes like dirt) or 10lbs of Dymatize Iso-100 (10000x better tasting 25 bucks more than the NOW! Isolate). I'm kinda stuck on what to buy. Lol
Not sure if you would recommend one or the other based on their ingredients and such.

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Your thoughts about intermittent fasting, have you tried it?
www.leangains.com for more information etc


bad bad bad bad bad bad. but this isn't my thread. :p

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Have you ever bought sups's off eebay i found these and they're almost 1/3 cheaper than the website i normally buy them off

http://www.eebay.co.uk/itm/Sci-Fit-KRE-ALKALYN-Creatine-240-caps-/110758209755?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements&hash=item19c9b428db

Also another quick one i notice some come with Beta-Alanine/Gluta-Lyn as a stack, could you tell me what these are for??

Thnaks
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Quote (StuOwen86 @ Oct 18 2011 12:56pm)
Have you ever bought sups's off eeebay i found these and they're almost 1/3 cheaper than the website i normally buy them off

http://www.eeebay.co.uk/itm/Sci-Fit-KRE-ALKALYN-Creatine-240-caps-/110758209755?pt=UK%5FHealth%5FBeauty%5FVitamins%5FSupplements&hash=item19c9b428db

Also another quick one i notice some come with Beta-Alanine/Gluta-Lyn as a stack, could you tell me what these are for??

Thnaks


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Everytime i posted the link it addedan extra e to eebay lol dunno why can't edit it either.
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Quote (cseitz71690 @ Oct 18 2011 03:52pm)
CL Orange Triad (3x pills 2 times a day with meals)
NOW! Vitamin d-3 5,000iu (1x pill once a day)
NOW! C-1000 (1x pill 4 times a day separated from the multi)
NOW! L-arginine + Ornithine (4x pills post workout, and pre bedtime)
NOW! L-Carnitine (1x pill 3x per day on an empty stomach)
Optimum Nutrition BCAA-1000 caps (take 4-6 capsules pre workout, intra workout at 45 mins, and post workout)
Scifit Kre Alkalyn (take 2x pre workout and post workout, on nonworkout days take 2x in the am and 2x in the pm)
Scifit glutalyn (if you get this for free with kre alk, take 2x post workout and 2x pre bedtime)
NOW! ZMA (take 3x pre-bedtime)
NOW! Super Omega 3-6-9 (take 2x with every food meal)



That's the list you gave me. What joint support supplement do you recommend?

Oh and also what would you prefer, NOW! Whey Protein Isolate 10lbs (25 bucks cheaper, but tastes like dirt) or 10lbs of Dymatize Iso-100 (10000x better tasting 25 bucks more than the NOW! Isolate). I'm kinda stuck on what to buy. Lol
Not sure if you would recommend one or the other based on their ingredients and such.



bad bad bad bad bad bad. but this isn't my thread. :p


I am disappoint Cseitz.

Lots of people have had great success with it, including me.

But Raynor writes it off as a "placebo effect" lmao. Then advocates a ketogenic diet like it's jesus. Lyle Mcdonald would be disappoint.

Lean gains works, short term fasting and "fasted" training is great. It has the science.....and experience to back it up. Whenever Raynor decides to wake up to it and stop giving bad information about that one subject, then it'll be a good day.
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