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Sep 28 2011 09:44pm
hi, i know im sick but im still gonna ask


been doing a non-keto cut + 6 day split for 2 months now, the first month i did cardio, now im focussing more on weights in the 2nd month, but i havent really seen much results in my core and motivation is getting harder to come by, now im not sure its excess skin that im feeling or what, i can also see my ribcage clearly.. why is my core not showing?
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Sep 29 2011 08:26am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sep 23 2011 03:07pm)
I would say 12-16 weeks of the 5x5 is sufficient to see good gains and then hit hypertrophy for the volume you desire.

good luck with the shows brother, keep up the good work


Should I do 12-16 weeks then a deload? Or sooner? Or should I just take a complete week off?
Never really "deloaded" before so I would also need some help with that. Lol :p

Also let me know every supplement I should be taking. I'm gonna be following your diet, routine, supplementation to the T
I wanna see how this stuff works out for me. :)
And as for the diet should I lower calories on the weekend when I'm resting? Or keep them in for maximum recovery?

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Sep 29 2011 08:57am
Hello again, was wondering if you could help me on some abs.
i believe i have potential, its just my stomach.. wen i go into a push-up position my excess skin hangs loose
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Sep 29 2011 11:57am
Quote (Mesonychid @ Sep 28 2011 10:26pm)
Hey there, I feel like my delts have been REALLY lacking overall in comparison to my chest.
Can you recommend any routine that'll help in their growth? Hypertrophy routine atm


Maintain the hypertrophy plan. However, make adjustments to your shoulders routine.

Either add more exercises (3-4 more types), or more overall volume (additional sets/weight/etc)

In addition, on another day of the week (must not be shoulders day) you must do another 3-5 sets of delts in order to spark the muscles but not enough to overtrain them.

Generally when you find a stubborn muscle group you mostly need to focus on your form, slow the reps down, squeeze the hell out of the muscle you are having trouble with on every rep, and increase volume/workload/sets/etc.
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Sep 29 2011 11:59am
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Sep 28 2011 11:16pm)
First paragraph is a question, last paragraph is a bit of a question, second paragraph is an update on the back (can be ignored):

Any recommendation on supplements that would help tendon and ligament repair? I am seeing my doctor really soon, but I'd love to just do about anything I can for my shoulder.

My upper back is feeling a ton better, looking right no longer hurts at all, looking left only *slightly* has a bit of strain when I turn my head as far as I can left. Looking down still makes my upper back feel a tad sore, but it's all good. I figure my upper back problem will be all fixed up probably within a few weeks, and probably won't be noticeable within a couple days (I'm going to get back at arm day and leg day and I'll skip my subsequent chest and back days). I've been stretching out just doing a couple wide pullups at a time (literally 2 at a time every hour) and doing some stretches.

Getting back to my more permanent injury (the one that feels like my front left delt but might be deeper idk): That's why I'm asking about any supps that might help. I'm really trying to hit my shoulder where it hurts very lightly every day and supplement my diet in ways that would help repair. Since rest never helped it, and since it seems to have gotten better as of late, I'm thinking it might be because I've been taking multivits and because I've been exercising very carefully with it: maybe if I keep on letting it sting a little with workouts and work out carefully with it, it'll repair. Maybe when it's left static (just resting) repair isn't being stimulated? Just an idea? Or am I crazy?


1. Take Universal Animal Flex (joint support pack) - this will help.

2. Glad to hear the back is feeling better!

3. It is true that total rest is not beneficial for LONG term repair. That is mostly short term (ie: 2-3 weeks after injury). However for long term you need to be keeping it mobile, stretching it lightly, and working it at the gym with low weight and full range of motion. Never fight through pain though.

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Sep 29 2011 12:01pm
Quote (vimy @ Sep 28 2011 11:44pm)
hi, i know im sick but im still gonna ask


been doing a non-keto cut + 6 day split for 2 months now, the first month i did cardio, now im focussing more on weights in the 2nd month, but i havent really seen much results in my core and motivation is getting harder to come by, now im not sure its excess skin that im feeling or what, i can also see my ribcage clearly.. why is my core not showing?


Several reasons.

1. You need to continue losing bodyfat...the abs are generally the LAST thing to show on a cut - be patient!

2. You need to train core more deeply. Read up here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine
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Sep 29 2011 12:07pm
Quote (cseitz71690 @ Sep 29 2011 10:26am)
Should I do 12-16 weeks then a deload? Or sooner? Or should I just take a complete week off?
Never really "deloaded" before so I would also need some help with that. Lol :p

Also let me know every supplement I should be taking. I'm gonna be following your diet, routine, supplementation to the T
I wanna see how this stuff works out for me. :)
And as for the diet should I lower calories on the weekend when I'm resting? Or keep them in for maximum recovery?


12-16 weeks of 5x5 followed by yes, 1 full week off, then back to hypertrophy.

For the diet, on days when you are not training, keep the protein/fats the same, but lower the carbs a bit as your body does not need them as much on non-workout days.

for supplements try these:


CL Orange Triad (3x pills 2 times a day with meals)
NOW! Vitamin d-3 5,000iu (1x pill once a day)
NOW! C-1000 (1x pill 4 times a day separated from the multi)
NOW! L-arginine + Ornithine (4x pills post workout, and pre bedtime)
NOW! L-Carnitine (1x pill 3x per day on an empty stomach)
Optimum Nutrition BCAA-1000 caps (take 4-6 capsules pre workout, intra workout at 45 mins, and post workout)
GAT Jet Fuel (take 3x pills pre-workout or substitute with 2 cups of black coffee)
Scifit Kre Alkalyn (take 2x pre workout and post workout, on nonworkout days take 2x in the am and 2x in the pm)
Scifit glutalyn (if you get this for free with kre alk, take 2x post workout and 2x pre bedtime)
NOW! ZMA (take 3x pre-bedtime)
NOW! Super Omega 3-6-9 (take 2x with every food meal)

that's all I can think of right now that would be beneficial for your goals, if I think of something else I'll let you now.
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Sep 29 2011 12:08pm
Quote (Idaho @ Sep 29 2011 10:57am)
Hello again, was wondering if you could help me on some abs.
i believe i have potential, its just my stomach.. wen i go into a push-up position my excess skin hangs loose


Certainly. First of all you must lose bodyfat by cutting down.

secondly follow this abs plan:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine
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Sep 29 2011 12:18pm
Hey Raynor, what's your opinion on the whole carbs before bed thing? Avoid? Or doesn't matter?
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Sep 29 2011 01:04pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ 29 Sep 2011 13:01)
Several reasons.

1. You need to continue losing bodyfat...the abs are generally the LAST thing to show on a cut - be patient!

2. You need to train core more deeply. Read up here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine


my upper abs are a bit ok - there is still work to be done, but im talking more around the illiac crest. how can i be sure its not excess skin and will that go away?
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