I agree, I’d rather just do IR and make the same salary on ports
And drains as a neurosurgeon though tbh fam

But neurosurg, transplant surg, and plastics (not bullshit cosmetic stuff) are by far the most technically oriented surgical specialties

Disgusting jobs.

Lol funny you even say that actually. One of the very few other things I've considered at all is IR
Another is vascular, albeit more-so just remotely, which is another obvious nod for most technically skilled. I thoroughly enjoy the raw craftsmanship of it.
But I also believe spine compensates the best, and you could pump out simple shit all day lol. I hate that part of it though.

For sure, as a neurosurg spine is almost beneath you albeit the fact that it’s most lucrative as an ortho spine is above you so they often revert to hip and knees

IR is interesting on the IO side of things and obviously vascular like you alluded too but in private practice the vascular guys and the interventional cards guys (who can do peripheral) will get most of the vascular work


I’m not much of a procedure guy but I’m going into an IR heavy radiology residency so we’ll see if I convert

edit: where are you at in your career balla? If you don’t mind me asking

This post was edited by Bubbler on Apr 29 2019 11:04pm

Exactly. Unfortunately, it’s super rare in neurosurg to not have to do at least majority spine work. Which is why I may do a fellowship or attempt to go to a large academic center. I really don’t give a shit about much of the spine stuff, yet.

IR fascinates me. IO seems awesome. If I did IR I’d attempt to still try to stay in the neuro realm. That’s a good idea. Our neuroradiologist told me in a lot of programs like that pure IR is just bottlenecking yourself, and you can easily get the # of procedures in general rad.

I’m finishing up my 3rd year now. Applying to residency in Sep, taking step 2 end of July. Applying for aways and such now. You? I assume just accepted, so 1 year ahead of me, based on other comments.

Yah just matched...heading to nyc, but staying in Chicago for my intern year

Gotcha. Dope. Gl. If all goes well I'll be in Baltimore shortly, but I know how competitive/limited neurosurg is, so who knows where I'll end up.

I’ll stick to crna and not pay 100,000 a year in malpractice insurance.


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What happens if you commit malpractice, though? Who's liable?



IR seems to be the future. Endovascular and minimally-invasive procedures are increasingly gaining footage. I wonder how much AI will be taking over in medicine, though.

This post was edited by Neptunus on May 3 2019 07:43am

You still pay for malpractice insurance, but a mid levels premium is maybe 15-20k annually, compared to a MD/DO is anywhere from 50,000 and up.