The medical field is trained to start with the cheapest and then continue from there. If you can find a problem with something cheap, why skip to the more expensive option?

Insurance companies won't refer their clients to your practice if you're always making them pay a fuck ton for diagnostic imaging.

Should never stop for a month or two.

During the proliferative and remodeling phases, you want to keep moving. You stopping with an injury like you did caused your body to repair itself in the way that it thought was correct which was without movement. Now you're going back to trying to move and your body is basically like wtf this isn't how you were during repairs.

Also, surgery is never the better option in any way whatsoever. You always want to try and fix it through pt before surgery. If you have surgery, you're just going to need pt after anyways to regain muscle function and range of motion.

It's disgusting how fast some docs and surgeons are trying to get people into surgery. I had a wrist and hand problem and they gave me a cortisone shot the first day and hinted at surgery and the second time I went back they tried to setup surgery and I dipped out and just rehabbed it myself through pt and it's fine now.

You're almost always going to have pt after surgery and you could also have other complications from the surgery. It's also way more expensive than pt. Surgery should always be the last attempt.

With that being said, I don't know your problem without looking at you, but you probably have some scapular stabilization problems or a postural problem that is causing your shoulder problem and pt will help tremendously with giving you exercises, soft tissue work, and giving you an idea of where you should be and how you can progress.

Bachelors in PT is the lowest qualification for a therapist. DPT programs started about 15-20 years ago so that's what you'll see from the younger PT's in clinics now. If they just have a bachelor's that means they've been practicing for a while. I've found some to be very great and always evolving with the research and others to be stuck in their ways for the past 30-40 years and not that great.

DPT's are now being trained to not only be PT's but also be able to find a lot of other medical problems that we can refer back to docs to diagnose. My curriculum has a whole year dedicated to medical science and learning about diseases.

You then have your specialty certs in PT that can specialize in pediatrics, osteopath, sports, etc.

And its not arrogance, its anger.

This post was edited by devilslayer on Apr 25 2018 01:52pm

Call it what you want 👍

this sounds 100% with out question a labrum tear. you are welcome.

pain involving front movements. shoulder feeling empty with clicking noises.

extremely fast fatigue, and no results on the xray.

This post was edited by tsneezy on Apr 25 2018 03:14pm

if its so obvious to you what his problem is over the internet you should fly right into medical school and zip through an accelerated orthopedics program so you can start getting paid 700k a year to fix those shoulders you know so much about. why are you still wasting time doing whatever youre doing now?

you know damn well an xray wasnt going to detect his issue rofl. hell he even said his doctor told him it most likely wouldnt. im not sure why you are pretending to be much more ignorant than you are, in order to defend a shitty medical system

could it be because you're trying to enter said medical system?

yes, it is.

no need to defend dogshit practices that waste your time.

let me tell you a little story

some years back i ruptured my patella tendon COMPLETELY, end to end tear.

doctor sends me for an xray, says everythings fine, just a little swelling. tries to send me home.

"...but doctor, my kneecap dislocated 4 inches upwards, leaving a huge cave where its normally supposed to be"

doctor> try to lift your leg while keeping it straight

*cant even lift it 1 inch*

doctor> uh ohhh....

this is just 1 small snippet of my nightmarish experiences with incompetent fucks

sorry if im destroying your little fairy tale where you think this isnt common out here in canada lmao

This post was edited by devilslayer on Apr 25 2018 04:45pm

So, I'm not a doctor but this seems very accurate. Did some research and YouTube tests about the two different types of labrum tears and so far a slap labrum tear matches the bill.
I will schedule a PT, bring up my original post as well as what I think it is and hope for the best.

I'm a bit disappointed because in all these youtube tests from doctors talking about various shoulder injuries and the different types they do a bunch of tests with the patient. My orthopediac spent 3 minutes with me in the room, 45 seconds of it doing 2-3 type of resistance tests that I watched on Youtube for Rotator Cuff tears.

A symptom I missed mentioning is the feeling of my shoulder about to pop when lifting it up and begin going backwards.

This post was edited by ArtofApocalypse on Apr 25 2018 05:48pm

go through 10 years of medical training and then complain about shitty medical practices that you actually dont understand

Was it in an emergency room? Or was it your PCP?

State side, we send people home every day with soft tissue injuries.. because.. wait for it, it’s gonna piss ya off!

ItS nOt An EmErGeNcY.

Go follow up with ortho, here’s a knee immobilizer.

This post was edited by ozzyarmy3 on Apr 26 2018 06:48am