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Quote (RewtheBrave @ 31 Oct 2017 13:44)
Just gonna complicate things and say that felt energy increases by about 50% on a keto diet. But keto is not a crossfit diet, because keto is about weight loss and optimal metabolism, not energy production for intense bouts exercise, esp. including cardio.

The best strategy is to aim for micronutrition and worry about macro nutrition based on energy needs. Most diets make a big deal out of your carb/fat/protein diet but they neglect what really matters for health.


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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Oct 31 2017 02:44pm)
Just gonna complicate things and say that felt energy increases by about 50% on a keto diet. But keto is not a crossfit diet, because keto is about weight loss and optimal metabolism, not energy production for intense bouts exercise, esp. including cardio.

The best strategy is to aim for micronutrition and worry about macro nutrition based on energy needs. Most diets make a big deal out of your carb/fat/protein diet but they neglect what really matters for health.


carb/fat/protein doesnt matter for health? by far the biggest threat to health in america is the overconsumption of macronutrients in general (combined of course with a complete lack of meaningful physical activity)
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carb/fat/protein doesnt matter for health? by far the biggest threat to health in america is the overconsumption of macronutrients in general (combined of course with a complete lack of meaningful physical activity)



so overconsumption of food generally and a lack of exercise are causing issues, not specific macros. those are not synonymous

you really think the % of a person's macros dedicated to fat or carb or protein is relevant for health if they're eating near maintenance and cardiovascularly fit? a sensibly monitored caloric intake and cardiovascular fitness is going to remove 99% of health problems for 99% of people.

the most salient factors for heart disease and issues are cardiovascular fitness and body fat percentage. everything else comes after.

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Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 31 2017 06:38pm)
carb/fat/protein doesnt matter for health? by far the biggest threat to health in america is the overconsumption of macronutrients in general (combined of course with a complete lack of meaningful physical activity)


Nvm i forgot this is the internet.


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This post was edited by BoneYard on Oct 31 2017 07:22pm
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Agree with cloud. Overconsumption of macros (aka calories) and a sedentary lifestyle is a recipe for poor health. Micros are obviously important too though.

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Quote (cloudkicker @ 31 Oct 2017 20:38)
carb/fat/protein doesnt matter for health? by far the biggest threat to health in america is the overconsumption of macronutrients in general (combined of course with a complete lack of meaningful physical activity)


Micronutrition matters more than macro nutrition because it is primary for cellular function. Presumably, most diets are cutting overall macro consumption and taking care of that health concern. But they don't usually address micronutrition. You added the caveat that overconsumption of macros is bad if someone is not exercising. I was responding to a question about crossfit diet. Obviously, I agree that physical activity is important.

You can have your macros in order and exercise regularly and be poised for disease if you don't take care of micronutrition. The vast majority of people who have their macros off also have their micronutrition off. But the reverse isn't true. People who actually get proper micronutrition tend to also get macro nutrition right.

The actual leading cause of disease in the Western world is ignorance coupled with emotional weakness, not nutritional issues one way or the other. If people make good choices about nutrition, mindset, exercise, etc., they will outlive people who don't lead their own lives.

I'm just saying that micronutrition is grossly overlooked as a contributing factor to health because there's so much focus on macro this and macro that. If someone consumes 1,400 daily calories from cookies made from sugar, lard, and collagen, I'm guessing that person will die much sooner than someone who gets 1,400 daily calories from a well-chosen mix of organic veggies and nuts.
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Nov 1 2017 01:10pm
Crossfit is gay, close thread pls
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Crossfit is gay, close thread pls


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Quote (Deathbv @ Nov 1 2017 01:10pm)
Crossfit is gay, close thread pls


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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Oct 30 2017 08:55pm)
Just...Eat

E: Ketogenic diet is dumb as fuck, your body works within a certain narrow pH, so when you put yourself into ketosis, it fucks all kinds of shit up.. Might not cause harm right now, but down the road it’ll kill you.


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