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Oct 9 2016 12:12pm
Quote (rlebar @ Oct 9 2016 01:55pm)
This guy is so annoying I'd love to punch him right in the mouth. Can't stand that smug shit.

People act like crossfit has all these unneccessary injuries like other sports don't. Give me a fucking break. I'm not saying crossfit is good or bad, but like any sport some people shouldn't do it.

Plus crossfit is one of those things where the cameras do go in the gym, where as other sports often have the same kind of retarded failures from the athletes it's just not as out in the open.

And I find it funny how a gym rat subforum hates on crossfit like they've never seen a gym fail video.

The hypocrisy is real

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I agree that some people who lift are morons and just hate on anything that isn't their way.

The video I posted, I think at 5:23, he says that the form isn't perfect and it's okay. Crossfit promotes the idea that it's okay to not have proper form while lifting. The fact that they use that mentality and then throw olympic lifts into the mix is what bothers me.
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Oct 9 2016 12:57pm
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I agree that some people who lift are morons and just hate on anything that isn't their way.

The video I posted, I think at 5:23, he says that the form isn't perfect and it's okay. Crossfit promotes the idea that it's okay to not have proper form while lifting. The fact that they use that mentality and then throw olympic lifts into the mix is what bothers me.


Who is to say crossfit from the top down promotes bad form? How many of you have even set foot in a crossfit gym to know that? Ok, you watched some videos on the internet and made up your mind on the whole thing because the bad videos are all that you see. Wouldn't that be like the person who has no or limited personal experience interacting with black people and then watching some videos online of some black hoodlums and then making the determination that all blacks are criminals, when they clearly are not. IT's a very bigotted and narrow minded approach

Also everyone acts like crossfit is the only place where bad trainers exist. In my personal experience in going to a gym off and on for 7 years as well as a life time of athletics/sports. I would say in my limited experience the good trainers/coaches are outnumbered by the bad ones 5:1. (it's an arbitrary number, the point I'm making is bad trainers and coaches are the majority)

Specifically, personal trainers in gyms are particularly atrocious in my personal experience

That aside, part of training is improving your form. It can literally take years to get a decent form on oly lifts. To critisize a trainer who says it's ok that there form is bad without the background context isn't right. They may be progressing just as they should. Or maybe the trainer is a dipshit, but we can't make that kind of a determination based on a 5 or 10 second clip.

Repetition is what improves form. Practice. years of it.

Everyone acts like OLY lifters only had good form their whole lives because all the video footage shows their perfected craft of years and years of repetition. Once, those lifters had god aweful form and had to be coached and we don't know what that coaching looks like, generally speaking.

Does anyone here ever do high rep squats? or high rep deadlifts? They're compound exercises too.

I'm not against high rep compound movements. Even to the point of failure, but what I would say in relation to that is if you are doing to do that, form is very important and knowing when and how to bail out of the movement is essential.

Crossfit is a young sport, it's going to have it's growing pains and failures just like any other sport in its infancy. Give it time and it will improve.
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Quote (rlebar @ Oct 9 2016 02:57pm)
Who is to say crossfit from the top down promotes bad form? How many of you have even set foot in a crossfit gym to know that? Ok, you watched some videos on the internet and made up your mind on the whole thing because the bad videos are all that you see. Wouldn't that be like the person who has no or limited personal experience interacting with black people and then watching some videos online of some black hoodlums and then making the determination that all blacks are criminals, when they clearly are not. IT's a very bigotted and narrow minded approach

Also everyone acts like crossfit is the only place where bad trainers exist. In my personal experience in going to a gym off and on for 7 years as well as a life time of athletics/sports. I would say in my limited experience the good trainers/coaches are outnumbered by the bad ones 5:1. (it's an arbitrary number, the point I'm making is bad trainers and coaches are the majority)

Specifically, personal trainers in gyms are particularly atrocious in my personal experience

That aside, part of training is improving your form. It can literally take years to get a decent form on oly lifts. To critisize a trainer who says it's ok that there form is bad without the background context isn't right. They may be progressing just as they should. Or maybe the trainer is a dipshit, but we can't make that kind of a determination based on a 5 or 10 second clip.

Repetition is what improves form. Practice. years of it.

Everyone acts like OLY lifters only had good form their whole lives because all the video footage shows their perfected craft of years and years of repetition. Once, those lifters had god aweful form and had to be coached and we don't know what that coaching looks like, generally speaking.

Does anyone here ever do high rep squats? or high rep deadlifts? They're compound exercises too.

I'm not against high rep compound movements. Even to the point of failure, but what I would say in relation to that is if you are doing to do that, form is very important and knowing when and how to bail out of the movement is essential.

Crossfit is a young sport, it's going to have it's growing pains and failures just like any other sport in its infancy. Give it time and it will improve.


I'm no pro, but I'm pretty sure that promoting poor form during any exercise can cause injury...I've watched the Crossfit Games for the last couple of years, and noticed that it's not just in the small gyms where this form is apparent.

Bad form = injuries...the proper way for anyone is to learn the correct form and to work your way up...not swinging like a raped ape and calling them pull-ups.
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I'm no pro, but I'm pretty sure that promoting poor form during any exercise can cause injury...I've watched the Crossfit Games for the last couple of years, and noticed that it's not just in the small gyms where this form is apparent.

Bad form = injuries...the proper way for anyone is to learn the correct form and to work your way up...not swinging like a raped ape and calling them pull-ups.


kipping pullups are a real thing and have been for a very long time. It's utilized in gymnastics, especially the rings. Nice try though
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Oct 9 2016 01:44pm
Crossfits interesting and done properly good fitness as a results same goes for weight lifting need proper form just because some are terrible at form doesnt mean all are
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Oct 9 2016 01:51pm
Quote (rlebar @ Oct 9 2016 02:57pm)
Who is to say crossfit from the top down promotes bad form? How many of you have even set foot in a crossfit gym to know that? Ok, you watched some videos on the internet and made up your mind on the whole thing because the bad videos are all that you see. Wouldn't that be like the person who has no or limited personal experience interacting with black people and then watching some videos online of some black hoodlums and then making the determination that all blacks are criminals, when they clearly are not. IT's a very bigotted and narrow minded approach

Also everyone acts like crossfit is the only place where bad trainers exist. In my personal experience in going to a gym off and on for 7 years as well as a life time of athletics/sports. I would say in my limited experience the good trainers/coaches are outnumbered by the bad ones 5:1. (it's an arbitrary number, the point I'm making is bad trainers and coaches are the majority)

Specifically, personal trainers in gyms are particularly atrocious in my personal experience

That aside, part of training is improving your form. It can literally take years to get a decent form on oly lifts. To critisize a trainer who says it's ok that there form is bad without the background context isn't right. They may be progressing just as they should. Or maybe the trainer is a dipshit, but we can't make that kind of a determination based on a 5 or 10 second clip.

Repetition is what improves form. Practice. years of it.

Everyone acts like OLY lifters only had good form their whole lives because all the video footage shows their perfected craft of years and years of repetition. Once, those lifters had god aweful form and had to be coached and we don't know what that coaching looks like, generally speaking.

Does anyone here ever do high rep squats? or high rep deadlifts? They're compound exercises too.

I'm not against high rep compound movements. Even to the point of failure, but what I would say in relation to that is if you are doing to do that, form is very important and knowing when and how to bail out of the movement is essential.

Crossfit is a young sport, it's going to have it's growing pains and failures just like any other sport in its infancy. Give it time and it will improve.


There's a difference between the official crossfit youtube channel promoting bad form and a random gym trainer at a shitty gym...
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kipping pullups are a real thing and have been for a very long time. It's utilized in gymnastics, especially the rings. Nice try though


That's fabulous, and was apparent in the second video posted in this thread...the stuff I've seen is on par with people who do 1/4 push ups and are amazed with themselves after doing 100...you also sound really butthurt, big into crossfit?
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Oct 9 2016 02:23pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ 9 Oct 2016 14:51)
There's a difference between the official crossfit youtube channel promoting bad form and a random gym trainer at a shitty gym...


like I said. It's a sport in its infancy.

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That's fabulous, and was apparent in the second video posted in this thread...the stuff I've seen is on par with people who do 1/4 push ups and are amazed with themselves after doing 100...you also sound really butthurt, big into crossfit?


I'm not disagreeing with you or anyone else on the stupid shit going on in crossfit. I'm simply saying writing it off completely on that basis is silly and, in the case of it happening on a forum such as this, borderline hypocritical, at best.

And no. I've never done crossfit.

This post was edited by rlebar on Oct 9 2016 02:24pm
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Oct 9 2016 02:38pm
Quote (rlebar @ Oct 9 2016 04:23pm)
like I said. It's a sport in its infancy.


I get what you're saying and you're right to a certain extent.

Obviously I've gotten more anal about form since I've gotten more into the physical therapy and athletic rehabilitation mindset, so I'm just not a fan of the higher ups in the sport saying that improper form is fine.
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Oct 9 2016 02:42pm
Quote (rlebar @ Oct 9 2016 01:55pm)
This guy is so annoying I'd love to punch him right in the mouth. Can't stand that smug shit.

People act like crossfit has all these unneccessary injuries like other sports don't. Give me a fucking break. I'm not saying crossfit is good or bad, but like any sport some people shouldn't do it.

Plus crossfit is one of those things where the cameras do go in the gym, where as other sports often have the same kind of retarded failures from the athletes it's just not as out in the open.

And I find it funny how a gym rat subforum hates on crossfit like they've never seen a gym fail video.

The hypocrisy is real

/inb4triggeredorrageaccusations


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