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Oct 4 2016 03:22am
So how low should my carbs be? And do i have to lower them at all? I've noticed i have a hard time getting calories in without carbs
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Oct 4 2016 07:00am
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Oct 4 2016 12:03am)
Gonna piggy back this and say that if someone is doing it faster than this, they most likely won't be able to sustain it. 1%/wk is pretty decent. Some people jump a lot of fat % early because they are especially heavy, but the amount of fat/water being lost down the road will eventually see a diminishing return. 22-12 is a steeper drop than 25-17; 2% more but also a slightly less fatty physique.

Also, use the same measurements for your bf% the entire time or you'll go batshit crazy. Different devices, different results, And use the same device 3-4x if you can before accepting a result.



Couple factors here:

starting diet: if it's a MASSIVE diet you won't suffer as much with a slightly bigger deficit

energy levels/hydration: if you can stay hydrated and keep your energy up, by all means cut at a greater deficit

I found out the hard way that I can tolerate a very low carb diet. the hard way, because I had to fight cravings for a while when first experimenting.



Indeed I think the "optimal" pace is just under 1% per week. Ryan Terry I believe had 14% body fat 16 weeks out of Mr. Olympia, and then cut down to around 4% for Mr. O-day where he landed second place in the Men's Physique division.


cutting from 14 to 4% is way more difficult than 22 to 12%, but then again Ryan Terry did everything 100% perfect, no cheat meals, perfect meal timing, frequency, nutrition; macros, micros etc... Not to mention the "supplements" and the supplements.
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Oct 4 2016 07:06am
My body fat percentage the last two years has steadily been around a MEASURED 5% to 9% (in real world terms that probably means 10-14%),

I don't really cut or bulk, just eat around maintenance level but every time I go on holiday or stay at my mum's house (no gym membership, and my family home is always stocked up on soda, candy and junk) I always end up putting on a several pounds of fat, thus forcing me to do a 2-3 week cut to get to the same level of shredd. In those two-three week periods I usually go from say 8% down to 6% measured body fat level.




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Oct 7 2016 04:59pm
Quote (Haxjsp @ Oct 3 2016 05:10am)
I'm prolly at like 22% BF how long will it take to get to like 12%?

And should my deficit be at 500? or lower like 200-300?


I would say you can get to 12% bodyfat from 22% (on a near perfect diet or close) in 12-16 weeks.

The diet I would aim for would be: 1g protien per pound of bodyweight, 150g of carbs at the absolute most, under 60g of fat.
During this diet you would try to do short carb fasting..meaning try to go the whole day with little to no carbs...it will suck and you will most likely fail..try this every other day and go till you fail.
This diet and the help of CLA and L-carnitine will give you results.

During the very low carb cuts try to eat more vegetables to stop the cravings. Also healthy fats will help also.
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I would say you can get to 12% bodyfat from 22% (on a near perfect diet or close) in 12-16 weeks.

The diet I would aim for would be: 1g protien per pound of bodyweight, 150g of carbs at the absolute most, under 60g of fat.
During this diet you would try to do short carb fasting..meaning try to go the whole day with little to no carbs...it will suck and you will most likely fail..try this every other day and go till you fail.
This diet and the help of CLA and L-carnitine will give you results.

During the very low carb cuts try to eat more vegetables to stop the cravings. Also healthy fats will help also.




That's way too little calories lol.


Assume he weighs 200lbs...


200g of protein (800kcal)
150g of carbs (600kcal)
60g of fat (540kcal)

Not even 2000kcal for an individual that weighs 200lbs? At thats your MAXIMUM recommended carbs and fat? Bruhhhh
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Oct 9 2016 07:57am
Quote (Haxjsp @ Oct 4 2016 07:22pm)
So how low should my carbs be? And do i have to lower them at all? I've noticed i have a hard time getting calories in without carbs


How do you have a hard time getting calories in without carbs?
When fats have over twice the calories of carbs per gram
You must eat absolute shit
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Oct 9 2016 08:11am
Quote (Sexyama @ Oct 9 2016 09:57am)
How do you have a hard time getting calories in without carbs?
When fats have over twice the calories of carbs per gram
You must eat absolute shit



Huh? You must be dumb as a thumb
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Quote (KCCO @ Oct 10 2016 12:11am)
Huh? You must be dumb as a thumb


Righto kid, i am not going to argue with some rand who knows nothing about nutrition :thumbsup:
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Quote (Sexyama @ Oct 9 2016 10:43am)
Righto kid, i am not going to argue with some rand who knows nothing about nutrition :thumbsup:



And your knowledge is so apparent from you stating 'how is it hard to get your calories when fats have more than carbs'

There are other factors including costs, time, food allergies that are not apparent in ops post. Clearly you are just a generalizing idiot
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Oct 9 2016 04:16pm
Quote (Crestron @ Oct 8 2016 06:06pm)
That's way too little calories lol.


Assume he weighs 200lbs...


200g of protein (800kcal)
150g of carbs (600kcal)
60g of fat (540kcal)

Not even 2000kcal for an individual that weighs 200lbs? At thats your MAXIMUM recommended carbs and fat? Bruhhhh


Close enough to 2000 calories and who the fuck cares kid? Low calories? You're cutting...muscle wasting? Dont be a bitch and run Ostarine = gg.

Get out of here.
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