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Sep 27 2016 11:05am
Quote (Deathbv @ 27 Sep 2016 08:21)
Fat people make me fucking sick....

shut the FUCK up with "no its not true, they hold onto fat easier"

BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH.

My mother was obese, and with careful and delicate guidance I helped her realize just small bits of physical activity paired with good eating habits could change everything around. She went from around 290, to 120 in about 6 months? shes WAY happier and healthier.

Before I helped her, god love her, she was one of those idiots that said her body preferred to be larger. After the fact, she admitted that she just "cheated" more than she had led on. A small cookie here, a large coffee with sugar etc there.

Fat people can be skinny, they just have no fucking drive.

My mom rocks

*mic drop*


Amen brother. kinda harsh but truth. also, 290 to 120 is nuts. Let alone done in that amount of time. Your mom is a champ

My brother, sister and mother are all super fat. They're just lazy and would rather eat like shit and never exercise and then have the audacity to bitch at me for eating poorly even though I eat better than them and never overeat. blows my mind. They just don't have a clue.

It's painfully frustrating. How did you get your mom to actually listen to you?
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Sep 27 2016 02:18pm
Wow, I posted this last night thinking I was being overly optimistic, yet HnF - and more specifically; Plaad, finds the exact video I was talking about in the first reply of the thread.


Well done :hail: :hail: :hail:


Had an argument with some one IRL saying certain people can't physically lose fat etc... My autism level increased by six points during that discussion haha
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Sep 27 2016 02:49pm
Quote (Lil_Gueto @ Sep 27 2016 03:56am)
Damn fat people are cringe




Quote (Deathbv @ Sep 27 2016 03:21pm)
Fat people make me fucking sick....

shut the FUCK up with "no its not true, they hold onto fat easier"

BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH.

My mother was obese, and with careful and delicate guidance I helped her realize just small bits of physical activity paired with good eating habits could change everything around. She went from around 290, to 120 in about 6 months? shes WAY happier and healthier.

Before I helped her, god love her, she was one of those idiots that said her body preferred to be larger. After the fact, she admitted that she just "cheated" more than she had led on. A small cookie here, a large coffee with sugar etc there.

Fat people can be skinny, they just have no fucking drive.

My mom rocks

*mic drop*


Haha word, fucking cringe lol

This post was edited by Crestron on Sep 27 2016 02:50pm
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Sep 27 2016 04:53pm
Quote (rlebar @ 26 Sep 2016 19:15)
OPs answer it's at about 49 minutes. Th show takes a turn at about 42 minutes where all the fat women start to get defensive.


I thank you for picking that out or else I wouldn't have been able to watch all of that without binge eating, lol :D But really, that helped a ton because when I originally started watching it I could only handle a few minutes before the Devil on my shoulder said "fuck this and fuck these people".

That Doctor did a great thing for the people there by giving them truth. I only hope they took it as motivation rather than a reason to get pissed off and create a tunnel of excuses to avoid reality. Also, the bariatric surgeon @ the end had a good comment, I like her approach. The clinical psychologist struck me as a total boso, and this comes from the perspective of a guiy who owns and operates a personal training and life coaching business. The ONLY "physiological" reason why people can't lose weight is in the neuronal and emotional components of physiology (i.e., if someone can't overcome feeling like shit).

So where I am deeply compassionate, especially as a trainer, regards the fact that life is hard for everyone and everyone has different tools to handle it. So emotional/psychological issues will cause people to avoid being healthy, but in many cases that can be treated. Exercise prescription is an avenue to feeling better about yourself, so it does two jobs in that respect. And some folks need more care and help than others, but it can't be a crutch so that they never get well.

It's a fantastic topic for discussion that, at least in the beginning of that video, was poorly presented and handled.

Also, in working with clients, I've come across the excuse trap in its various forms. It's always best to be compassionate but to deliver the truth both fully and directly. What you don't want as a trainer is to become part of a history of excuses a person can use for not losing weight, i.e., "I even used a trainer and I couldn't lose weight". Fuck that.
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Sep 27 2016 07:05pm
Quote (PlaaD @ Sep 26 2016 04:56pm)
Whole clip there. Guess you can use it to find the part you are looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mMpE8AaA0


"I don't eat carbs, I eat fruit".
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Sep 27 2016 07:11pm
what about the people who use the excuse: "i just have a slow metabolism"

thus far i haven't had the heart to tell any of them that your metabolism speeds up as your BMI raises and slows down as your BMI lowers.
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Sep 27 2016 07:23pm
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what about the people who use the excuse: "i just have a slow metabolism"

thus far i haven't had the heart to tell any of them that your metabolism speeds up as your BMI raises and slows down as your BMI lowers.



"Bbbbut but so and so eat more than me and arent gaining weight and are skinny."

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous. Fat people are out here doing the impossible.
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Sep 27 2016 07:55pm
I don't hate fat people, I just hate their problems.

I think compassion is the right course. Truth, but delivered with compassion. Otherwise, fat people will stay discouraged, hurt, and fat. Great people can have problems and not be ready to change. And all of us have been hurt or had shit to go through, so it's not like being in shape means being a better person. More evolved in life? yes.
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Sep 28 2016 01:10am
Quote (RewtheBrave @ 27 Sep 2016 17:53)
I thank you for picking that out or else I wouldn't have been able to watch all of that without binge eating, lol :D But really, that helped a ton because when I originally started watching it I could only handle a few minutes before the Devil on my shoulder said "fuck this and fuck these people".

That Doctor did a great thing for the people there by giving them truth. I only hope they took it as motivation rather than a reason to get pissed off and create a tunnel of excuses to avoid reality. Also, the bariatric surgeon @ the end had a good comment, I like her approach. The clinical psychologist struck me as a total boso, and this comes from the perspective of a guiy who owns and operates a personal training and life coaching business. The ONLY "physiological" reason why people can't lose weight is in the neuronal and emotional components of physiology (i.e., if someone can't overcome feeling like shit).

So where I am deeply compassionate, especially as a trainer, regards the fact that life is hard for everyone and everyone has different tools to handle it. So emotional/psychological issues will cause people to avoid being healthy, but in many cases that can be treated. Exercise prescription is an avenue to feeling better about yourself, so it does two jobs in that respect. And some folks need more care and help than others, but it can't be a crutch so that they never get well.

It's a fantastic topic for discussion that, at least in the beginning of that video, was poorly presented and handled.

Also, in working with clients, I've come across the excuse trap in its various forms. It's always best to be compassionate but to deliver the truth both fully and directly. What you don't want as a trainer is to become part of a history of excuses a person can use for not losing weight, i.e., "I even used a trainer and I couldn't lose weight". Fuck that.


yeah i won't lie. I've seen that show once before years ago (I think) and I actually sat and watched the whole thing again.

The show had a really good approach but it was a huge fail. It was really unfortunate.

Solid words nonetheless
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Sep 28 2016 05:17am
There really isn't much to do about individual obese people besides trying to motivate and support them in losing weight. Shaming is just counter-productive.

The other thing is that there really is something going on considering how many people fail to lose weight. Our methods are shitty if there's an on-going epidemic of obesity and health professionals are essentially helpless. It really doesn't matter whether obese people are just lazy, bad people or if there's something we don't know of that could be exploited in the fight against obesity. Sin tax, proper education, medication, surgery, reduction of social inequality so that healthy food becomes more affordable... There's numerous measures

But of course, the intellectually lazy way is to give up all inquiry and just blame the obese for being obese and not dig into the subject any further.
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