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Jul 13 2016 03:51am
Quote (noob_whacker @ 12 Jul 2016 11:36)
one ounce of water vs one ounce of snake venom. both are small but ones much more dangerous to drink... u never know how toxic something is based on amount



ok yea. but as far as this soda, it does taste very sketchy, and seems like great marketing and shit. cant put brown sugar in soda but yea lol. i wont buy this again anyway. and thanks for response


Technically venom needs to be injected into the blood stream to be fatal. Drinking it is perfectly fine. Poison is deadly if consumed.

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Sugar is also super detrimental to health so sweeteners are really safer for the most part. Dunno bout stevia but it seems sketchy indeed from what i recall. Research and tests will tell.

It's partly true that they're harder to break down, but then again the amounts are minute compared to the amount of sugar they would substitute. Quantities matter more than qualities.


How is sugar detrimental to one's health?
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Jul 13 2016 05:57pm
the stevia plant has tons of health benefits and the sugar extracted from it shares a few of the benefits. notably antioxidants. it's banned in europe because tests on cells, in a lab, outside of the body, outside of their biological context came up mutagenic, not carcinogenic.

this concern isn't crazy by any means, considering the fact many of you happily eat cooked red meat which has been known to be carcinogenic for a while now.

the only danger to diabetics is stevia extracts which are mixed with sugar alcohols like xylitol, which will show 9g carbs on nutrition facts, but in reality only have say 1 or 2g that will affect blood glucose. since sugar alcohols don't affect blood glucose some diabetics make a mistake and administer insulin for carbs that are basically imaginary. a misleading thing. i hope it's common knowledge for diabetics.

diabetes is either the resistance to insulin or the inability to create insulin. so no, unfortunately stevia doesn't make the pancreas work again or cause it to pick up the slack on insulin resistance.


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Technically venom needs to be injected into the blood stream to be fatal. Drinking it is perfectly fine. Poison is deadly if consumed.



How is sugar detrimental to one's health?


it's not detrimental unless you have tumors or cancer or poor dental hygiene habits.. then it's only detrimental in the fact it's an unnecessary additive which aids the growth of said tumor, or multiplication of said cancer cells, or aids already decaying teeth. it helps all cells grow of course, but this is the only reason it'd be a bad thing, especially considering how easy it is to consume a LOT of sugar without even trying to.

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Jul 13 2016 06:54pm
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the stevia plant has tons of health benefits and the sugar extracted from it shares a few of the benefits. notably antioxidants. it's banned in europe because tests on cells, in a lab, outside of the body, outside of their biological context came up mutagenic, not carcinogenic.

this concern isn't crazy by any means, considering the fact many of you happily eat cooked red meat which has been known to be carcinogenic for a while now.

the only danger to diabetics is stevia extracts which are mixed with sugar alcohols like xylitol, which will show 9g carbs on nutrition facts, but in reality only have say 1 or 2g that will affect blood glucose. since sugar alcohols don't affect blood glucose some diabetics make a mistake and administer insulin for carbs that are basically imaginary. a misleading thing. i hope it's common knowledge for diabetics.

diabetes is either the resistance to insulin or the inability to create insulin. so no, unfortunately stevia doesn't make the pancreas work again or cause it to pick up the slack on insulin resistance.




it's not detrimental unless you have tumors or cancer or poor dental hygiene habits.. then it's only detrimental in the fact it's an unnecessary additive which aids the growth of said tumor, or multiplication of said cancer cells, or aids already decaying teeth. it helps all cells grow of course, but this is the only reason it'd be a bad thing, especially considering how easy it is to consume a LOT of sugar without even trying to.


some tumor types rely on fatty acid metabolism
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Jul 13 2016 07:19pm
Quote (Wretch @ 13 Jul 2016 17:57)
the stevia plant has tons of health benefits and the sugar extracted from it shares a few of the benefits. notably antioxidants. it's banned in europe because tests on cells, in a lab, outside of the body, outside of their biological context came up mutagenic, not carcinogenic.

this concern isn't crazy by any means, considering the fact many of you happily eat cooked red meat which has been known to be carcinogenic for a while now.

the only danger to diabetics is stevia extracts which are mixed with sugar alcohols like xylitol, which will show 9g carbs on nutrition facts, but in reality only have say 1 or 2g that will affect blood glucose. since sugar alcohols don't affect blood glucose some diabetics make a mistake and administer insulin for carbs that are basically imaginary. a misleading thing. i hope it's common knowledge for diabetics.

diabetes is either the resistance to insulin or the inability to create insulin. so no, unfortunately stevia doesn't make the pancreas work again or cause it to pick up the slack on insulin resistance.




it's not detrimental unless you have tumors or cancer or poor dental hygiene habits.. then it's only detrimental in the fact it's an unnecessary additive which aids the growth of said tumor, or multiplication of said cancer cells, or aids already decaying teeth. it helps all cells grow of course, but this is the only reason it'd be a bad thing, especially considering how easy it is to consume a LOT of sugar without even trying to.


My teeth suck! NOOOOOO!
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Jul 14 2016 01:44am
Stevia lol

Watch 40 seconds please :)



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Jul 15 2016 06:19am
Quote (cloudkicker @ Jul 13 2016 08:54pm)
some tumor types rely on fatty acid metabolism


i never knew this!
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Jul 15 2016 06:47am
Quote (Wretch @ Jul 15 2016 08:19am)
i never knew this!


Relatively new information, a lot of people don't. Also mutagenic and carcinogenic aren't very different terms. Mutagenic compounds induce mutations in DNA. Carcinogenic compounds induce mutations in DNA that lead to cancer. Mutagens can very likely cause cancer as well
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