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Apr 14 2016 03:58pm
Quote (ug_warrior(xtc) @ Apr 14 2016 11:45am)
Other than increasing cardio, you're gonna have to track what you eat and at least get a GENERAL idea so you're in the ball park and either over do the cardio by a hundred calories or so or get it just right and be at like a 2-400calorie deficit

But bro just think... if you weren't lazy about your food intake and kept track of it.. You could be lazy about cardio and I'm with you on that, FUCK CARDIO!


Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 14 2016 12:25pm)
But then again doing cardio takes less brains and if you walk/jog on a treadmill you could possibly even do something semi-productive like reading something :p


Quote (Pugboat @ Apr 14 2016 01:18pm)
Track what you eat, figure out your TDEE and make sure you are UNDER it on non-workout days. It sucks but gets easier the more you do it, try an app like my fitness pal.

Cardio just make sure you are getting a good amount in like 30-40 min on top of lifting.

Lifting will be testy. A lot of people notice lowered energy levels, strength loss and mental exhaustion. If your still incorporating carbs(CHO) into your meals try and only consume a majority of them before and after your lift sessions and don't get discouraged at stagnation. Carbs will help with Glycogen storage and muscle recovery but don't be surprised if you need a minute extra between reps.


nice, great tips guys
I appreciate it

should I be lifting heavy and do 8-10 reps
OR
lift light and do more reps?

also

would whole body workouts be okay on top of cardio?
OR
focus on 2-3 muscle groups and do a bunch of workouts for those?
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Apr 14 2016 04:34pm
Quote (mrxskyline12 @ Apr 14 2016 02:58pm)
nice, great tips guys
I appreciate it

should I be lifting heavy and do 8-10 reps
OR
lift light and do more reps?

also

would whole body workouts be okay on top of cardio?
OR
focus on 2-3 muscle groups and do a bunch of workouts for those?


If your on a program already just stick with that. I know some lifters like to stay in the lower reps higher weight area on a cut because the 8-12 rep sets can tire you out, but you'll be feeling it more regardless. Watch your DOMS and energy levels, if they are really off consider adjusting your TDEE higher or adding in carbs/fats.

Quote (mrxskyline12 @ Apr 14 2016 02:58pm)
focus on 2-3 muscle groups and do a bunch of workouts for those?


This seems drastic unless your on a specific program, stick to 2 groups with 2-4 sets unless your on something like PPL

Quote (mrxskyline12 @ Apr 14 2016 02:58pm)
would whole body workouts be okay on top of cardio?


Makes me think HIIT or circuit training, would depend on your program or goals if you want to go that route.
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Apr 14 2016 05:23pm
Quote (Pugboat @ Apr 14 2016 02:34pm)
If your on a program already just stick with that. I know some lifters like to stay in the lower reps higher weight area on a cut because the 8-12 rep sets can tire you out, but you'll be feeling it more regardless. Watch your DOMS and energy levels, if they are really off consider adjusting your TDEE higher or adding in carbs/fats.



This seems drastic unless your on a specific program, stick to 2 groups with 2-4 sets unless your on something like PPL



Makes me think HIIT or circuit training, would depend on your program or goals if you want to go that route.


okay so i dont know too much of the terminology
whats:
DOMS
TDEE
HIIT
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Apr 14 2016 06:01pm
Quote (mrxskyline12 @ Apr 14 2016 04:23pm)
okay so i dont know too much of the terminology
whats:
DOMS
TDEE
HIIT


My bad

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure or how many calories your working with

DOMS = Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, this is how sore you get after a workout, usually 24-72 hours

HIIT = High Intensity Interval Training, Imagine Burpies into jogging in place for 2-3 minutes, rest a minute and do again. 3-5 sets.
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Apr 14 2016 07:12pm
Quote (Pugboat @ Apr 14 2016 08:01pm)
My bad

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure or how many calories your working with

DOMS = Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, this is how sore you get after a workout, usually 24-72 hours

HIIT = High Intensity Interval Training, Imagine Burpies into jogging in place for 2-3 minutes, rest a minute and do again. 3-5 sets.


nah brah burpees and jogging =/= HIIT, your vo2 wont go high enough
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do cardio outside if you think it is boring
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Quote (mrxskyline12 @ Apr 14 2016 01:14pm)
Hey guys

So I used to weigh around 160, maybe about 6 months ago.
Now I am at 180.
I have bulked up in both muscle and fat.

I like the weight I am at but I want to loose the fat.
Mostly belly and chest fat.

I guess you can say I want to start cutting.

How do I do that exactly?

I don't have the greatest of knowledge when it comes to what workouts to do, how much cardio to do, or what types of food I should and should not be eating
All I know is not to eat sugar lol.

Can I know some fitness tips from you guys?
What types of food should I eat?
What types of food should I avoid eating?
What workouts should I do?
How much cardio should I do?
Should I do cardio before or after weight lifting?
What kind of supplements should I take, if any at all?

Or just other tips you may what to share
I appreciate your help and the time you have taken to post here in advance.


Hey man congratulations for your weight gain ! Hopefully you have made a so called clean bulk and not one of those EAT MOTHAFAKING BEASTMODE -ones (as i did just to test it) :)

Can I know some fitness tips from you guys?
- Tips from own experience is to take it slow, depending on how much you have weight to lose it might take time from 1-6 months, DONT overdo and DONT try to find some quick solution for weight loss, it comes with time and patience believe me

What types of food should I eat?
In my opinion you can start with the food you have eaten for the time being on bulk, but the difference is the portion of the food. As i have tried to find a way to listen your own body when it comes to weight loss/weight gain, i have seen the best way without tracking the macros is to cut the food plate in to 3 pieces. 1/2 of the plate being vegetables, 1/4 being carbohydrates ( rice, pasta, potatoes etc.) and the last 1/4 being protein (meat, chicken, turkey,fish etc.)
Avoid foods that seems harmless but consist of lots of calories like sausages bacon and stuff with high fat :)
DONT make huge changes at one time same here as in exercises

What types of food should I avoid eating?
Answered on the second question, foods which are high caloric (fat foods)

What workouts should I do?
Its really up to you what you like to do, depending on you body frame (if you have already a good amount of muscle in you) you might look good with less fat% or you might look a bit skinny if you cut down and see that you actually dont have much of a muscle in you, BE REALISTIC TO YOURSELF
Usually people like to do cardio when cutting down and besides that weight training to keep those muscles which you have achieved when bulking down to the point when you are satisfied with your body

How much cardio should I do?
If you want to do cardio i suggest you start adding cardio 1-3 training sessions keeping it in 30-45 min keep the cardio pace low to medium or if you like to do HIIT training then do it for 30 min which consists of 10min warmup 1-5 sprints (30sec runnning/1min walking) and about 10min cooldowns (start adding more cardio from 1 session to 3 sessions in a week by adding cardio weekly or monthly one training more then in last week/month)

Should I do cardio before or after weight lifting?
I have tried both ways, and for me the best option is to do cardio separately, that being for my weight training consisting of heavy work which cardio plays a bit role if done before or after, so i suggest you to do the cardio separately or you can do it after the weight training as a conditioning of the weight train

What kind of supplements should I take, if any at all?
I have tried with supplements and without supplements and from my point of view the supplements are as said SUPPLEMENTS. You dont necessarily need them as when you are being relatively new to working out and cutting, the key is to get your diet correct. Then if you see you are not doing something right with your eating habits or you have already seen the weight loss/bulking up without supplements and believe they might help you make better results, then adding them would be proper.

Sorry for a bit bad english but hopefully this helps you out, if you have any questions feel free to PM me :)
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