not my cup of tree brother.

fruits and veg are a necessity to have but I wouldn't base a diet on it..

4-6 times a day shitting. LOL

You're not going to take away my joy from pooping only once a day.

prob increase risk of infections of the anus

cuz using public toilets all the time


by the way im joking

well sort of

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Mar 28 2016 11:53am

OP, 100% agreeing with you. there are zero cons to switching to a plant-based diet, and too many pros to list. the only thing is you'd better know how to cook.

many people though just lack the information, self-esteem, and/or compassion to even see where all of this is coming from. eating animal products is too engrained into them for them to consider a better/more responsible way of living. kind of like the grandparents who still watch VHS and don't understand the internet. it's beyond them, they're stuck. same type of mindset.

no amount of hard facts can influence indoctrinated ignorance. waste of effort man.

but a LOT of vegan/vegetarian products are fortified with b12, like soy milk. zero worries there.

i'm not a vegan, just vegetarian, still eat fish. there's one thing i do not understand about the vegan thing. do you know how much of the house/apartment you're living in and the building materials used contain animal products? how many everyday household items you buy at the store contain animal products? i understand the ethos, i do, it's just impossible to live a lifestyle completely free of all animal products. it extends much farther beyond food and i never see this mentioned. what do you think about this?

This post was edited by Wretch on Mar 28 2016 12:47pm

Nice

0 cons

i stopped reading when i read that....



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/
"Conclusions
On the whole, our results strongly corroborate the past findings in smaller samples of adolescents and young adults, which have demonstrated that in contrast to physical health, a vegetarian diet is not associated with better mental health. Whether compared with a control group of non-vegetarians matched for important socio-demographic characteristics, or with non-vegetarians in general, vegetarians show elevated prevalence rates of diverse mental disorders. Importantly, we found no evidence for a causal role of vegetarian diet in the etiology of mental disorders. Rather, our results are more consistent with the view that the experience of a mental disorder increases the probability of choosing a vegetarian diet, or that psychological factors influence both the probability of choosing a vegetarian diet and the probability of developing a mental disorder."




also from another source

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279075

"However, eliminating all animal products from the diet increases the risk of certain nutritional deficiencies. Micronutrients of special concern for the vegan include vitamins B-12 and D, calcium, and long-chain n-3 (omega-3) fatty acids. Unless vegans regularly consume foods that are fortified with these nutrients, appropriate supplements should be consumed. In some cases, iron and zinc status of vegans may also be of concern because of the limited bioavailability of these minerals."

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Mar 28 2016 01:00pm

"stopped reading" this is a symptom of said ignorance i originally mentioned. thanks for that.

so it has no change on mental health, and you have to include a couple common fortified foods. these certainly aren't benefits, but are by no means cons either. your lack of reading comprehension both with my post and the nimh article is so obvious it's laughable. either read the whole article, or go back to scouring the internet and try again. there's nothing conclusive in that whole study, you can tell because the page states so about a dozen times.

i do like the "in contrast to physical health" part. you forgot to edit that out, sherlock. you make a weak-ass argument, but let's not pretend that's anything new.

This post was edited by Wretch on Mar 28 2016 01:28pm

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0088278

Conclusions

Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment. Therefore, a continued strong public health program for Austria is required in order to reduce the health risk due to nutritional factors. Moreover, our results emphasize the necessity of further studies in Austria, for a more in-depth analysis of the health effects of different dietary habits.

you keep talking about "hard facts" and yet bring none of them to the table while he sites peer-reviewed articles... hmm

This post was edited by Justise on Mar 28 2016 01:45pm

I bet their studies show that more Austrians die from mountain falls and avalanches too. We're in the fucking US, back to scouring the internet with you. Try again.



i could spell all this shit out and the entire sf would find a typo and choose to obsess over that.

don't even kid yourself.

This post was edited by Wretch on Mar 28 2016 01:46pm