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Nov 18 2015 12:36pm
Quote (HotHamAndCarl @ Nov 18 2015 12:17pm)
No mods on this subforum, we had a tranny post here for years


churchgirl

lexi aka tony

or the new one, tabithacat ?

Quote (serialj0e @ Nov 18 2015 02:33pm)
why would this be useful?


most often occurs in older men

they sometimes get lower than average test levels and require prescription test to raise it back within normal ranges

low test can cause low muscle, low sex drive, depression, etc

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Nov 18 2015 12:38pm
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Nov 18 2015 01:07pm
I wouldn't say it "most often occurs in older men" anymore. It most often, jk it ALWAYS occurs in dudes who are post cycle.
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Nov 18 2015 10:01pm
Quote (serialj0e @ Nov 18 2015 02:33pm)
why would this be useful?


Girls who want to become guys, older men or men with exceptionally low natural t would all benefit from some test supplementation
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Nov 19 2015 08:30am
Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Nov 18 2015 08:07pm)
I wouldn't say it "most often occurs in older men" anymore. It most often, jk it ALWAYS occurs in dudes who are post cycle.


Uhuh, when Jon Jones fought Daniel Cormier, both were tested and had test levels of 6 year old schoolgirls...
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Nov 19 2015 09:41am
Quote (noob_whacker @ Nov 18 2015 02:36pm)
churchgirl

lexi aka tony

or the new one, tabithacat ?



most often occurs in older men

they sometimes get lower than average test levels and require prescription test to raise it back within normal ranges

low test can cause low muscle, low sex drive, depression, etc


oh ok
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Nov 19 2015 03:33pm
I doubt it's allowed to be discussed here as it is just a type of therapy that utilizes steroids.

That being said... this is HnF. We moderate our fuckin' selves.
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Nov 19 2015 03:44pm
Had a friend that had low test level. They didn't give him actual testosterone as a replacement but they gave him hcg to basically kick his balls into production. He's still taking this stuff which has been way too long IMO because now he will probably have to rely on it. But basically he grew from like 5'5 to 5'11 in a matter of 6 months lol.
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Nov 19 2015 06:14pm
Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 19 2015 04:44pm)
Had a friend that had low test level. They didn't give him actual testosterone as a replacement but they gave him hcg to basically kick his balls into production. He's still taking this stuff which has been way too long IMO because now he will probably have to rely on it. But basically he grew from like 5'5 to 5'11 in a matter of 6 months lol.


Maybe I'm confused here but how in the world would hcg make him grow taller? He probably is just in puberty. It seems odd that his doc would prescribe such a thing to a kid your age.
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Maybe I'm confused here but how in the world would hcg make him grow taller? He probably is just in puberty. It seems odd that his doc would prescribe such a thing to a kid your age.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2385733



Fifty male patients with delayed pubertal development (chronological age 13.3-17.6 years; bone age 9.5-14 years) were treated with human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) 1500-2000 units twice weekly for six months to promote pubertal development and accelerate growth. Response was compared with an untreated control group of 28 patients (chronological age 12.5-17.5 years; bone age 7.0-13.0 years). Forty-four of 46 patients in the treatment group achieved genital stage 3 or 4 by the end of therapy; untreated patients either remained unchanged or advanced only one genital stage during this period. Testicular volumes increased from a median 4.5 ml (range 1-12 ml) to 9 ml (range 3.5-15 ml) in the treated patients. In untreated patients testicular volume increased from 6.0 ml (range 2-10 ml) to 9.5 ml (range 4-20 ml) over the same period. In patients initially growing at less than 7.0 cm/year height velocity increased from 3.9 cm/year (range 0-6.6 cm/year) to 12.7 cm/year (range 8.9-16.8 cm/year) during therapy, falling to 6.0 cm/year (range 0-12 cm/year) in the three-month period immediately following treatment. Patients initially growing at greater than 7.0 cm/year showed variable responses to treatment. Prepubertal patients showed the greatest acceleration in annual growth compared with controls. Treated patients with an initial skeletal age less than 12.0 years showed either a final height (when known) which was less than initially predicted or a significant reduction in predicted height following treatment. Skeletal age greater than 12.0 years was not associated with excess osseous maturation. In conclusion, pre-pubertal children growing at less than 7 cm/year show the greatest benefit from HCG therapy, but final height may be prejudiced if initial bone age is less than 12 years.
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Quote (noob_whacker @ Nov 19 2015 08:11pm)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2385733



Fifty male patients with delayed pubertal development (chronological age 13.3-17.6 years; bone age 9.5-14 years) were treated with human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) 1500-2000 units twice weekly for six months to promote pubertal development and accelerate growth. Response was compared with an untreated control group of 28 patients (chronological age 12.5-17.5 years; bone age 7.0-13.0 years). Forty-four of 46 patients in the treatment group achieved genital stage 3 or 4 by the end of therapy; untreated patients either remained unchanged or advanced only one genital stage during this period. Testicular volumes increased from a median 4.5 ml (range 1-12 ml) to 9 ml (range 3.5-15 ml) in the treated patients. In untreated patients testicular volume increased from 6.0 ml (range 2-10 ml) to 9.5 ml (range 4-20 ml) over the same period. In patients initially growing at less than 7.0 cm/year height velocity increased from 3.9 cm/year (range 0-6.6 cm/year) to 12.7 cm/year (range 8.9-16.8 cm/year) during therapy, falling to 6.0 cm/year (range 0-12 cm/year) in the three-month period immediately following treatment. Patients initially growing at greater than 7.0 cm/year showed variable responses to treatment. Prepubertal patients showed the greatest acceleration in annual growth compared with controls. Treated patients with an initial skeletal age less than 12.0 years showed either a final height (when known) which was less than initially predicted or a significant reduction in predicted height following treatment. Skeletal age greater than 12.0 years was not associated with excess osseous maturation. In conclusion, pre-pubertal children growing at less than 7 cm/year show the greatest benefit from HCG therapy, but final height may be prejudiced if initial bone age is less than 12 years.


Well hot damn.

I guess I don't know shit :rofl:

This post was edited by PureOwnage2 on Nov 19 2015 07:26pm
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