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Oct 12 2015 08:01am
The thing with core exercises is that they're all dynamic movements and the core's major role especially in heavy lifting is almost always isometric contraction. Isometric contraction of any muscle allows you to generate more force than concentric contraction, so dynamic core exercises aren't really specific to the main role of the core in everyday movement.

What I would really be interested in seeing is someone developing a core routine using only heavy eccentric movements
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Oct 12 2015 09:51am
Quote (Orakpo @ Oct 12 2015 01:11pm)
Doesn't even pertain to what op asked.


Trunk = ass right?
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Oct 13 2015 06:58am
Quote (GodisLove @ Oct 12 2015 10:51am)
Trunk = ass right?


ABSolutely not.


The trunk also harbours many of the main groups of muscles in the body, including the:

pectoral muscles
abdominal muscles
lateral muscle
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Oct 13 2015 02:54pm
what are you trying to accomplish by doing the core work?

my previous training involved a shit ton of core work..the reason was because my sport required a lot of rotational force generation from the core, so it served a specific purpose

it involved anti-rotation holds, isometric holds, and a lot of twist variations
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Oct 13 2015 03:14pm
Quote (xrmd @ Oct 13 2015 01:58pm)
ABSolutely not.


The trunk also harbours many of the main groups of muscles in the body, including the:

pectoral muscles
abdominal muscles
lateral muscle


Junk in da trunk? Whatcha gonna do with all that junk? Alldat junk inside dat trunk?

I'm totally mistaken, learning something new everyday :)
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Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Oct 14 2015 07:54am)
what are you trying to accomplish by doing the core work?

my previous training involved a shit ton of core work..the reason was because my sport required a lot of rotational force generation from the core, so it served a specific purpose

it involved anti-rotation holds, isometric holds, and a lot of twist variations


Goal is primarily to maximally stimulate and develop all muscles in the core. Mostly for aesthetic purposes but I figured it would also have carry over to many exercises, and if I start playing football again (Aussie rules).

What benefits did you notice?

Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 13 2015 01:01am)
The thing with core exercises is that they're all dynamic movements and the core's major role especially in heavy lifting is almost always isometric contraction. Isometric contraction of any muscle allows you to generate more force than concentric contraction, so dynamic core exercises aren't really specific to the main role of the core in everyday movement.

What I would really be interested in seeing is someone developing a core routine using only heavy eccentric movements


So for isometric core training is goat for carryover to heavy lifting?

how about for benefits of aesthetics
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Goal is primarily to maximally stimulate and develop all muscles in the core. Mostly for aesthetic purposes but I figured it would also have carry over to many exercises, and if I start playing football again (Aussie rules).

What benefits did you notice?



So for isometric core training is goat for carryover to heavy lifting?

how about for benefits of aesthetics


Yes it's more specific but planks and other body weight isometric contractions don't really tend to pose a strength challenge, they're more of an endurance thing. Gotta get high intensity contractions

Abdominal aesthetics is simply a combo of increased muscle mass and lower body fat

This post was edited by cloudkicker on Oct 14 2015 05:46am
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Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 14 2015 10:45pm)
Yes it's more specific but planks and other body weight isometric contractions don't really tend to pose a strength challenge, they're more of an endurance thing. Gotta get high intensity contractions

Abdominal aesthetics is simply a combo of increased muscle mass and lower body fat


how much work is optimal for growth of the abdominals?

I understand they're predominately st fibres and get isometrically stimulated from squats/deads/rows etc. But would say, 1-2 sets of high intensity trunk flexion via say, hanging leg raises, 3x a week be optimal?
How would you program ab work for someone w/ a goal of aesthetics?
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