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Apr 2 2015 02:46pm
Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Apr 2 2015 03:29pm)
May just be me, but if you're cutting, need more protein, less carbs. 164g protein at 195 lbs is about 2/3 of what you should get. Get at least 1g / lb of body weight. I get ~260 at 205 lbs while cutting.


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Guess me and all the people I know are fkin idiots then.
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Guess me and all the people I know are fkin idiots then.


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Oh well. Works for me for some reason. Any of you can explain why what I'm doing is wrong and having low protein in take on a cut is good?
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Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Apr 3 2015 12:42am)
Oh well. Works for me for some reason. Any of you can explain why what I'm doing is wrong and having low protein in take on a cut is good?


No one is saying have a low intake but 1g/lb isn't required while in a deficit nor in a surplus barring gear useage.
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Apr 2 2015 07:25pm
Do people still actually used the Xg/lb bodyweight bullshit?


Set up a caloric budget, divide calories into a percentage of fat/carbs/protein and go for that amount.


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Quote (PudzianGoat @ Apr 2 2015 09:25pm)
Do people still actually used the Xg/lb bodyweight bullshit?


Set up a caloric budget, divide calories into a percentage of fat/carbs/protein and go for that amount.


Don't see how something that makes sense and that many pros will tell you is good, is considered "bullshit" but I guess alright.

Was unaware that cuts consisted of having higher carb consumption than protein. Cutting carbs cuts fat. Don't see why you'd cut proteins instead of carbs. But I'm not an expert by any means.
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Apr 2 2015 07:41pm
Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Apr 2 2015 08:38pm)
Don't see how something that makes sense and that many pros will tell you is good, is considered "bullshit" but I guess alright.

Was unaware that cuts consisted of having higher carb consumption than protein. Cutting carbs cuts fat. Don't see why you'd cut proteins instead of carbs. But I'm not an expert by any means.


Pros take gear and are generally clueless, anyhow. They need high protein due to the massively increased protein synthesis. Second, you keep your fats just high enough to maintain sanity and flexibility in your diet. Last, you want your carbs as high as possible for sanity and performance in the gym. If you find yourself being extremely hungry, you can increase your protein which will help with satiety assuming your fiber intake is in line.
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Apr 2 2015 07:48pm
Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Apr 3 2015 02:38am)
Don't see how something that makes sense and that many pros will tell you is good, is considered "bullshit" but I guess alright.

Was unaware that cuts consisted of having higher carb consumption than protein. Cutting carbs cuts fat. Don't see why you'd cut proteins instead of carbs. But I'm not an expert by any means.


I think its the wrong approach to consume your protein based on x amount of grams per pound of bodyweight.

For instance a friend of mine who does loads of sports (MMA, boxing, tricking, cheerleading, weight lifting etc) started a 7000kcal/day diet in order to
gain weight. even at 1g per lb (many will advise you to consume less, like 1.8g or even 1.6g per kg I've heard)

at 200lbs that means just 200g or 800 calories from protein.. Only 12% of those 7000 calories would be protein :/ I'd recommend at least 30% being protein, which with a 7000kcal diet would mean 525 grams of protein or 2.7 grams per lb


A friend of mine who recently competed in Men's Physique ate a 2800kcal diet to cut for 8-10 weeks and that diet contained 255 grams of protein for a guy weighing 175lbs thats about 1.5g/lb.

This post was edited by PudzianGoat on Apr 2 2015 07:49pm
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Apr 2 2015 07:52pm
Quote (PudzianGoat @ Apr 3 2015 01:25am)
Do people still actually used the Xg/lb bodyweight bullshit?


Set up a caloric budget, divide calories into a percentage of fat/carbs/protein and go for that amount.


This doesn't work for every situation, and doesn't take into account caloric intake, leanness, activity level, etc.
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