Quote (ug_warrior(xtc) @ Feb 5 2015 11:50am)

if you're looking for a replacement for hard work dedication/no results over night, might as well go balls to the wall and use something that works

buying organic isn't going to do anything either

Quote (Bankai @ Feb 5 2015 06:53pm)

neither of us are looking for a replacement, just something to speed things up. if possible in a healthy way. and i won't be buying organic, just saying they are good markets to get everything i need. guess it was useless info anyways.

Quote (ug_warrior(xtc) @ Feb 5 2015 11:56am)

wasn't trying to be a dick about it, just was saying in short organic is a fad and marketing ploy for things to cost more money and give people a sense of "feel good." Same thing as all these juice cleanse/diet things.

clenbuterol and ephedrine are the only two things that come to mind that may help.. or adderrall tho I do not recommend starving yourself and losing muscle + fat.

Quote (ug_warrior(xtc) @ Feb 5 2015 11:35am)

Yeah, you can only consume ~500 calories a day or some ridiculously small number. Depending on your weight, you lose 5-10lbs a week. It's something a lot of yuppy older people do who've never been able to lose weight. It's also used for people who run a cycle as it levels out the test hormones in the body. The neat thing about HCG, though, is that while on it, you can NOT work out or do strenuous activity since you're caloric intake is so small, however you only lose fat and not muscle.

Quote (boxboxbox @ Feb 5 2015 07:30pm)

thats not what it does in AAS cycles actually, it's used mainly to prevent testicular atrophy and cessation of endogenous test production by mimicking LH in the testes . I had never heard of it being used outside of AAS use though.

edit: did some googling and I see what youre talking about as far as using it without AAS

Quote (Kinase @ Feb 5 2015 02:36pm)

If you're just looking for a small boost try taking ephedrine + caffeine. This is of course assuming you are not taking any other medications and have no pre-existing medical conditions.