Even though I have pretty good clean technique? I recon I could clean about 175 lbs for 1 rep with good technique in a week or two (not sure though, 110 lbs clean 5x3 was quite easy for the muscles at least. good bar height. got more out of breath than anything. today I mostly feel it in my traps though).
I dont know my rows number, but Im sure I wouldnt start at 135 lbs pendlay rows, and not 135 lbs bent over rows with good technique either. doing rows you can lift twice the number with improper technique.
edit: also last time I did rows was pendlay rows 6 years ago, not that sure on proper technique

EDIT2: also, I would appreciate a link to the source material if you have it available

This post was edited by Dragon_Reborn on Jan 30 2015 08:28pm

dont listen lol, there are cleans in starting strength, which is meant to be a beginner routine

its broscience vs broscience, wont hurt to do them unless you injure yourself

This post was edited by Qwaze on Jan 30 2015 09:03pm

turtol is the pond scum of this sf he has been working out for years with no resutls but injuries and loss of brain cells

plz post your gains. post anything about your life that a 10 year old could not accomplish besides diabetes.



oh, i thought your weights were in lbs. Rippetoe just said you wouldn't be able to properly activate your upper back with cleans or something, I read into it a bit back.

A little update:

two weeks have gone by, and it hasnt been the best start, since Ive missed 2 exercies (one each week).
This has been related to work and me not checking when the gyms are open here, and planning properly.
I also went out drinking last weekend, which as we all know arent best for progress (kind of felt I had to since I met new coworkers here, but I should have taken it easier on the beer/drinks).
Sleepwise Im getting into a better routine.
Dieting has been going pretty good, but Ive missed a couple of meals here and there, and I definitely need to get those 5 meals a day (been hitting 4 meals some days + supplements and protein shake each day).

Last two workouts (tuesday and saturday this week, my schedule is tue/thu/sat)

workout A (weights in kg)
squat - 3x5x65
bench - 3x5x50
DL - 1x5x100
abs in TRX, 2x10xbw

workout B
squat - 3x5x70 (starting to feel heavy here on the last set, getting up from the deep position)
SOP - 3x5x30
clean - 5x3x60 (getting bruises on my shoulder and upper chest below the clavicle, Ill make another post with pictures of what I mean. I think I got an issue with catching the bar properly)
abs DB sidebends - 2x10 (22 kg)

So this is what I talked about.
Bruises during my cleans:



I think I lift the bar higher than nescessary, and I dont time the catch when the bar is at its highest (standing "still"), letting it kind of crash down onto my shoulders.
I also suspect I dont keep my elbows high enough, making me catch it with elbows more sort of down than the prefered racking of the bar in front of the shoulders.

You guys have any experience with this?

This post was edited by Dragon_Reborn on Feb 8 2015 01:57pm

Yea my wife keeps asking why I have weird round bruises all over, I tell her it's because I lift weights.

I tried to keep track of a diet and the stuff I do at the gym but it just makes it too complicated. Now I just go in bust ass for 2 hours and get out, and don't eat like a pig anymore.

Those bruises make you stronger.

Also, your first picture

Who dat!?

clean your mirror dude i can barely see your nipples

on priority list: clean bath room mirror

Im starting to notice the "noob gains", and seeing how my body is getting back on track pretty fast is motivating.
Doing cleans still hurt a bit, but I improved the technique catching the bar. it hurts touching my upper right chest below the clavicle and Ive got a bump there, but Ill live through it.
Ill focus on catching the bar cleaner for the next clean workout.


Last two workouts (tuesday and saturday this week, my schedule is tue/thu/sat)

workout A (weights in kg)
squat - 3x5x75
bench - 3x5x57
DL - 1x5x110
abs in TRX, 3x10xbw

workout B
squat - 3x5x80
SOP - 3x5x35 (went too heavy here. i thought this would be easy, but my shoulders are lagging bad. hit reps for 5,4,4. sucks, but ill stay at this weight next workout)
clean - 5x3x65 (It was painful catching the bar on my shoulders. this made me mis a rep in the middle. reps for 3,3,2,3,3)
abs DB sidebends - 3x10 (24 kg)