That is a physical consequence. Among the many that may come with taking cycles --Send all twenty for a standard psychological eval and see how they feel about them-- I understand what you're saying, I've met more people who've done drugs specifically for weightlifting than I care to have met. I still think in time it will tell for those people if it hasn't already

This post was edited by TOKiMONSTA on Nov 16 2014 11:21pm

"I would just try anything to see what would happen" it's very likely that steroids didn't ruin this guy. But rather the infinite amount of other garbage he put in to his body... Idiot

Okay so let's take it one step further with this little steroid debate. At what cost and for which reason would the average citizen use cycles? Before we delve into the gist of why you're an idiot to abuse your body in this way, I want you to remember something. Woman don't like super-heavy weights or guys with vascular necks. They want an tan Abercrombie model with 17 inch arms and abs. Wake up if you think it will get you bitches, it might get you a SOME. Most bitches will laugh and point at you. Moving along so let's talk about why in the fuck would you take them. To pose in your gym/bathroom? To get big? You know once you stop taking them you'll just shirnk again right? Seen Arnold with his shirt off lately? Wanna look like that later in life? He looks like an 100 year old scrotum. There's no point for the average citizen to take steroids. You can try to put together anything you want as to why you do them or why you want to use them. Society says otherwise, mother fuckers.

Implying all steroid users get huge and turn into monsters lol.

I agree, I think it's stupid to cycle. Lifting weights is a challenge against your self, I feel like taking steroids is cheating. Not to mention it costs quite a bit of money and it's illegal, why put yourself at risk??

That's another huge point to be made, taking them doesn't assure you anything, I know guys who have nothing but scar tissue to show for it. And yeah they are illegal under federal law where I live as well, so I will steer clear.

Why do you care what someone else does if it doesn't affect you in any way? And if you do steroids the right way and lift correctly and properly cycle then you're guaranteed results.. You're putting extra test in your body etc... That's like saying you're not guaranteed that your food will digest if you eat it. If you put it in your body, your body will either use it, or you eventually get rid of it. In the case of steroids, your body is going to use it if you do it correctly. As for whoever "only got scar tissue"... Tell them maybe next time they should actually lift and post cycle correctly after they come off cycle. Not to be a dick or anything... But steroids ALWAYS get a bad wrap from people who've "heard stories" etc. if you do it correctly, it works. Yes of course there are negative side effects. But they're not always devastating like the uneducated claim they are..

/e not here to fight/argue, just discuss as friends m8s

This post was edited by orpimpin1201 on Nov 16 2014 11:48pm

I'm a competitive body builder, bud.

Pics?

Already posted in the correct thread. Not going to post pictures of myself on here constantly.

Congratulations. There's a lot of "competitive bodybuilders"... That doesn't mean you know everything about steroids and lifting..

And you should say "natural" since I'm sure you're salty about getting beat by guys who juice.

This post was edited by orpimpin1201 on Nov 16 2014 11:50pm