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Nov 5 2014 01:20pm
Quote (noflexzone @ Nov 5 2014 12:18pm)
Nigga that's like eating regular potatoes and sweet potatoes at the same time.  Do one or the other.  Or cut out queer fit and pick up a sport.


:/ if all fails here I'll Pm Afficinado hes helped me with dieting and few other things. Just seeing if any1 wants to help cuz a lot of experience here.
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Nov 5 2014 01:22pm
hyp v ss?

Hyp keeps your volume up, which is probably akin to crossover. It should help you fill out more, but if you're doing crossfit it's going to impede on your gains/rest.
As for ss, if you follow it as they present it, I don't think you'll make the optimal strength adaptations either.

Crossfit stresses the body and if you're adding cardio on top of it, may as well not even think about adding something else in to gain strength or to hyp because even if it helps, ultimately you'll be overtraining. It's almost the perfect storm for repetitive strain/stress/movement injuries and rhabdomyolysis.

My own suggested approach would be to incorporate more rest or increase dietary protein intake. Maybe creatine as well. You CAN try to force gains while doing 5d crossfit + cardio weekly but I wouldn't play with that fire.
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Nov 5 2014 01:31pm
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hyp v ss?

Hyp keeps your volume up, which is probably akin to crossover. It should help you fill out more, but if you're doing crossfit it's going to impede on your gains/rest.
As for ss, if you follow it as they present it, I don't think you'll make the optimal strength adaptations either.

Crossfit stresses the body and if you're adding cardio on top of it, may as well not even think about adding something else in to gain strength or to hyp because even if it helps, ultimately you'll be overtraining. It's almost the perfect storm for repetitive strain/stress/movement injuries and rhabdomyolysis.

My own suggested approach would be to incorporate more rest or increase dietary protein intake. Maybe creatine as well. You CAN try to force gains while doing 5d crossfit + cardio weekly but I wouldn't play with that fire.


I'm saying Crossfit has a lot of cardio I don't do shit on the side of that. But I definetly see what your saying explains a good amount. And makes me wonder if I even should even bother trying.
I just have time some days where I could get a solid workout in at a gym that isn't crossfit because I'm still interested in body building but too dedicated to crossfit to switch.

And for the over training part, I rest 2-3 days but usually when I rest a certain body part is usually sore. and other parts aren't cuz weren't hit that day so If my legs are fried I could hit upper body at a real gym. Shit like that.

Also what do you mean exactly when you say strength adaptations?

This post was edited by kylefrc on Nov 5 2014 01:32pm
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I'm saying Crossfit has a lot of cardio I don't do shit on the side of that. But I definetly see what your saying explains a good amount. And makes me wonder if I even should even bother trying.
I just have time some days where I could get a solid workout in at a gym that isn't crossfit because I'm still interested in body building but too dedicated to crossfit to switch.

And for the over training part, I rest 2-3 days but usually when I rest a certain body part is usually sore. and other parts aren't cuz weren't hit that day so If my legs are fried I could hit upper body at a real gym. Shit like that.

Also what do you mean exactly when you say strength adaptations?


'strength adaptations' - I just meant the expected strength gains from ss based on the training stress/lifts.

It's very difficult to have one hand in two pots ... I play basketball and I lift (modified 5x5) and I found the right balance but I found it at the expense of some cardio. And I don't do plyo training if I'm lifting, which means I've been dodging plyo. Crossfit is it's own thing, and in some ways it's a test of will. Bodybuilding is awesome (did some in hs) but it requires a lot of dedication. It's a world unto itself if you take it seriously at all. It's a lot of iso, a lot of volume, a lot of rest. You can definitely mix it with some crossfit, but on one side or the other (or probably both) you won't get a lot out of it.
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Nov 5 2014 01:48pm
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Nov 5 2014 12:37pm)
'strength adaptations' - I just meant the expected strength gains from ss based on the training stress/lifts.

It's very difficult to have one hand in two pots ... I play basketball and I lift (modified 5x5) and I found the right balance but I found it at the expense of some cardio. And I don't do plyo training if I'm lifting, which means I've been dodging plyo. Crossfit is it's own thing, and in some ways it's a test of will. Bodybuilding is awesome (did some in hs) but it requires a lot of dedication. It's a world unto itself if you take it seriously at all. It's a lot of iso, a lot of volume, a lot of rest. You can definitely mix it with some crossfit, but on one side or the other (or probably both) you won't get a lot out of it.


Alright thanks appreciate some help. Yea I know crossfit would interfere with a lot of gains but its not just giving me enough chest/traps results as much of the rest of my body and I see how well body builders are compared to crossfitters. But you can't really do both n I get that now.

Just think some side strength training could do some good aesthetically and strength, but if it doesn't or its too much for me I'd stop.

Still would like to hear others advice good or bad

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Nov 5 2014 02:03pm
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Alright thanks appreciate some help. Yea I know crossfit would interfere with a lot of gains but its not just giving me enough chest/traps results as much of the rest of my body and I see how well body builders are compared to crossfitters. But you can't really do both n I get that now.

Just think some side strength training could do some good aesthetically and strength, but if it doesn't or its too much for me I'd stop.

Still would like to hear others advice good or bad


Then just do some chest/traps twice a week when ur not doing crossfit
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Nov 5 2014 02:10pm
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Then just do some chest/traps twice a week when ur not doing crossfit


Yea that's what I was aiming for and maybe some calf work. Based off Rew's information I should go with Hypertrophy.
Since I would be really only be hitting those body parts should I go with the same rep scheme as a hypertrophy or perhaps modify it and make my own ?
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Nov 5 2014 02:35pm
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plz dont do this at your local gym

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp7-5gbtfOY



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Nov 5 2014 03:11pm
I read like half the thread...

Go with hyp training.
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