Quote (Vargo_Hoat @ 11 Sep 2014 21:14)
agree with this on ON whey and creatine (as long as it's creatine, not filler poop in a blend). however for fat burning i would probably go with Shred Jym (available @ bodybuilding.com, too) as it's a better fat burner and it's also a pretty solid pre. no NO, but NO is overrated.