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Sep 1 2014 08:42am
Quote (BodyBuild @ Sep 1 2014 03:17pm)
do 5/3/1 for slower progression if you're going to be doing a lot more outside the gym

for basketball, you're better off working on jumping and foot work..pc's are garbage anyway unless you have a coach to guide your form


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Quote (BodyBuild @ 1 Sep 2014 10:17)
do 5/3/1 for slower progression if you're going to be doing a lot more outside the gym

for basketball, you're better off working on jumping and foot work..pc's are garbage anyway unless you have a coach to guide your form


I can work on form with fellow players or fellow personal trainers.
Just looking at program options.

@BodyBuild: jumping and footwork only gets you so far in basketball. I want to help prevent injury, get stronger against contact, etc.. I feel very comfortable going into contact but if I can improve in that area of the game, I'll take it. More strength never hurts.
I'll probably stick to power stuff and added weight-lifting (searching for program) for short term gains until the seaosn starts but then I want a progressive regimen rather than a maintenance scheme.
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Sep 1 2014 10:46am
Another good option for you could be jonnie canditos linear program

Only 2 heavy days a week
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Another good option for you could be jonnie canditos linear program

Only 2 heavy days a week


Maybe. If I stick to two heavy days it shouldn't screw up my schedule. Going into September I'll be shooting at least 5d/wk for 1-2 hours (just shooting and some dribbling), abs at least twice a week, cardio more or less daily (but in varying doses), agility/plyos a couple days a week, and doing sport-specific training a few days a week (nothing outrageous, i can cut it back for a strength program).

So as you can see I need to compress my schedule and I'm probably looking at some form of 2-a-days 6d/week. I can do my heavy lift days without messing up shooting (it's just another adjusment) and I can lift first to give it my energy. Abs I can always pepper in--2nd nature to me now. Cardio I can set to light days, and those would go nicely with agility, plyo, although I'd do the agility/plyo first so as not to rip myself from achilles to ass. Sport-specific stuff will probably rotate around agility/plyo. That's 6 days and a day of rest if I need it.

e: and yeah the lack of rest between heavy days will slow progress but I can plan my lightest days and my rest day after my heavy days.

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I can work on form with fellow players or fellow personal trainers.
Just looking at program options.

@BodyBuild: jumping and footwork only gets you so far in basketball. I want to help prevent injury, get stronger against contact, etc.. I feel very comfortable going into contact but if I can improve in that area of the game, I'll take it. More strength never hurts.
I'll probably stick to power stuff and added weight-lifting (searching for program) for short term gains until the seaosn starts but then I want a progressive regimen rather than a maintenance scheme.


okay more raw strength.. sure, muscle mass too maybe. i played competitive basketball my whole life. if you want to just get stronger all around, s/b/dl then. Which brings us back to the first post, try 5/3/1. Progression is linear but at a slower pace, can add weight every 3 weeks if you skip the deload, since you more than likely do not need it. Guarantee you work on your feet, you'll find that far more beneficial. Can't tell you how many times I had little scrawny dudes tear me up in the paint cause they were just quicker and had nicer footwork.
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Quote (BodyBuild @ 1 Sep 2014 19:28)
okay more raw strength.. sure, muscle mass too maybe.  i played competitive basketball my whole life.  if you want to just get stronger all around, s/b/dl then.  Which brings us back to the first post, try 5/3/1.  Progression is linear but at a slower pace, can add weight every 3 weeks if you skip the deload, since you more than likely do not need it.  Guarantee you work on your feet, you'll find that far more beneficial.  Can't tell you how many times I had little scrawny dudes tear me up in the paint cause they were just quicker and had nicer footwork.


I'll start this week or next but I guess 5/3/1 "leads". I'll test the progression for a solid program length and see how it feels. My body is in recovery stage (starting tomorrow) after a barrage of cardio and agility (and basketball) so I'll have a few lighter days then get off my ass.

ty all btw.

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Don't consider 5/3/1 unless you plan on following the scheme for your b/s/dl for a few months at least.
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Quote (BodyBuild @ 1 Sep 2014 22:35)
Don't consider 5/3/1 unless you plan on following the scheme for your b/s/dl for a few months at least.


I can take it on ... I'd like a quick result but that's just greedy. If it's progressive and if I focus on the main lifts I can live with the result. I will monitor my progress following the scheme and if it contraindicates my goals I will re-evaluate it after a fair haul.

The chief concern is just getting stronger without screwing up performance and massively overtraining. Patience is a pain :D
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