Quote (Aube @ Aug 13 2014 10:37pm)

Don't you have a wife?

Quote (Afficionado @ Aug 13 2014 05:41pm)

LOL, well played.

Quote (AngeloMisery @ Aug 13 2014 10:42pm)

How is that by the way I sort of fell of the internet.

Quote (Afficionado @ Aug 13 2014 05:46pm)

where have you  been?!

And it is going well man!

how are you?

Quote (AngeloMisery @ Aug 13 2014 10:49pm)

I got a lot more of a life and also took up golf, so things are good I guess same old. Not as exciting as you how are things with you?

Quote (Afficionado @ Aug 13 2014 06:04pm)

hahah, crazyyy. I actually also started golfing though! well kind of...

I've been working with my parents all summer, land development, renovating rentals, and that sort of stuff. Got a bigger motorcycle. I went on a mission trip to the dominican which was phenomenal. Life has been pretty great.

Quote (cloudkicker @ Aug 13 2014 02:22pm)

It's not because your legs are adding force directly to the vector of the pec complex though.

Same thing I tell everybody else, the bench is just like the deadlift and squat in that you need to approximate good form first (feet flat on ground, spine neutral, arms externally rotated, grip neutral), THEN tighten up, and THEN you can load the system and begin to move. If you load and try to move first, and then correct your form you're setting yourself up for failure.

It's like people I see bending over to grab the bar in a deadlift, and after they've made contact and tightened they try to get their low spine straight and they can never really approximate a neutral position because tissues are loaded in the wrong order

Quote (turtol @ Aug 13 2014 08:45pm)

What's the proper order for deadlifts???

Quote (cloudkicker @ Aug 13 2014 07:41pm)

set neutral spine (i do so by pretending to be in full upright end-snatch position), and tight, neutral shoulders, hinge down at the hips while maintaining neutral spine, set grip on bar, adjust hip height using knees and tighten up quads core posterior chain traps etc, then pull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCXX3BsrEcM

this vid is alright, you see he follows each of those steps. set spine first, then hinge down and set grip. most people set grip and then try to organize their spine and it doesnt work as well