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Jul 29 2014 08:36pm
Quote (Welterweight @ Jul 29 2014 08:31pm)
Sometimes focusing more on the actual technique can work wonders.  Exactly as the above post mentioned; you seemed capable of the 445 lb PR.  I would suggest refocusing; start with lower weights, have a more solid technique, get comfortable with it and go from there.

Other than that, I think your foot spacing was good; I do it the same way also.


arent u the guy who had the broscience thread in mma forums lul

please go.
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Jul 29 2014 10:36pm
Quote (Diamondbacks @ Jul 29 2014 08:14pm)
Was a 445 Single. Got 425 same depth but didn't record it because I was pretty confident I was gonna get this :(.

Anyways I know it's not ATG but any form critiques etc? Please some embed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1gxvYG6Xw


your ankles collapsed at the bottom of the rep, thats why you lost it. you need to stop pointing your goddamn toes out so far, and push those knees out throughout the rep.

if you look especially at your right foot, as soon as you near end range your foot arch breaks, and your knees start to cave. you bleed a LOT of torque right at that moment when the arch drops
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Jul 29 2014 11:28pm
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your ankles collapsed at the bottom of the rep, thats why you lost it. you need to stop pointing your goddamn toes out so far, and push those knees out throughout the rep.

if you look especially at your right foot, as soon as you near end range your foot arch breaks, and your knees start to cave. you bleed a LOT of torque right at that moment when the arch drops


It is impossible for some people to squat with their toes forward without falling back or overcompensating by arching their back forward too much.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Jul 29 2014 11:29pm
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Jul 29 2014 11:33pm
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It is impossible for some people to squat with their toes forward without falling back or overcompensating by arching their back forward too much.


i guess i achieve the impossible biweekly then
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Jul 29 2014 11:46pm
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i guess i achieve the impossible biweekly then


I said for some people. U have your toes completely straight? I'm sure I'm not the only one and others can vouch that they will fall back if they keep their toes forward or they have to lean forward a ton for leverage.

It stretches my shins a ton keeping my toes forward as well as my hamstrings.
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Jul 30 2014 06:30am
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I said for some people. U have your toes completely straight? I'm sure I'm not the only one and others can vouch that they will fall back if they keep their toes forward or they have to lean forward a ton for leverage.

It stretches my shins a ton keeping my toes forward as well as my hamstrings.


That would be the result of improper motor patterning and not usually a physical fault of the body
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Jul 30 2014 06:40am
you "butt out" at the concentric when it's suppose to be only at the beginning of the eccentric. hence your back overloaded and you caved in
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Jul 30 2014 10:23am
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Regarding shoulders vs knee vs ankle, it's a question of what went first, but it's also a question of allignment (and as mentioned above, motor pattern). When I consider a lift, I don't put tooooooo much into what went first exactly because everything went. But if you start with what went first then you can begin to see the cause, and that should help the entire chain of movement.

So we know about knee buckling as an issue you've experienced before and I would agree that your toes were out too far, so that's a good place to start. I only watched once but my impression is that at the neck & shoulder area, you're just counter-balancing. It's not the way to counter-balance so maybe a shift in visual focus would help, but it's more critical to get behind the lift more before worrying about how you finish it once it's starting to topple.

I would suggest addressing your balance and how you use your knees so that you don't lose force, not just when you're driving up but also once you're loading up on the way down.

tl;dr I see a combo of what everyone is saying above. You have a menu of choices which is why I suggest starting at the ... start.

btw you did the right thing by sharing your lift. You are clearly not far away from nailing it, so good luck on it :) I always tell myself "form is function" and although I've lifted for 23 years I still have areas where I can improve.

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Jul 30 2014 10:43am
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Jul 30 2014 02:55pm
Looking up does nothing for your squat. Its a cue most coaches will endorse to help with keeping your chest up, which you can do while looking forward (maintaining a neutral spine creating a safer and more efficient position to lift greater amount of weights).

If you like setting up that wide OP you might want to try a low bar position. Your knees were caving in pretty hard though, so if you want to maintain that position I'd start doing accessory work that'll strengthen your entire posterior chain and adductors.

Other than that, it looked good from the angle. Try squatting barefoot or with flat soled shoes though lol
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