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Aug 23 2013 01:47pm
bend at the knee first m8, not the hip
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Aug 23 2013 02:06pm
is it ok to have bad form if you don't lift very heavy? for example if i squat 50lbs
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Aug 23 2013 02:08pm
Quote (SX-XiP @ Aug 23 2013 08:06pm)
is it ok to have bad form if you don't lift very heavy? for example if i squat 50lbs


it's not as bad, but still not good by any means. So no it's not ok
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Aug 23 2013 02:45pm
yeah I switched to front squats, my back feels better and my form is 10 times better. I did drop the weight down too but w.e
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Aug 23 2013 03:09pm
Quote (SX-XiP @ Aug 23 2013 04:06pm)
is it ok to have bad form if you don't lift very heavy? for example if i squat 50lbs


injuries dont require you to be lifting heavy weight at all. it all depends on the forces and torques applied to bones, ligaments and tendons/muscle bellies during a lift really, but you can hurt yourself with relatively small loads if you arrange yourself properly
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Aug 23 2013 03:43pm
Just for future reference, I had the exact same problem with my back except mine herniated all the way and cracked to the point where the inner-substance was pushing directly on my sciatic nerve. I did have the surgery (micro discectomy ) and I literately regained my life back.

If yours ever gets to the point where it is bothering you again and you think you may havecracked through the disk i wouldn't hesitate the get the surgery because it was 1-2 months of downtime and I was able to retain all my flexibility and mobility like it was prior to the injury.

If you have any questions PM me otherwise, I hope your back stays strong and you don't need to get surgery ever!
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Aug 23 2013 04:07pm
Quote (gramkracka22 @ Aug 23 2013 08:45pm)
yeah I switched to front squats, my back feels better and my form is 10 times better. I did drop the weight down too but w.e


Just keep working on it.

Literally every time I squat I am looking to improve my form, and do so. Just try to keep the movement as natural as possible, know what REAL good form is, and work from where you are at.


and to OP..

Honestly fuck it. You have no intention of competing I assume, and you've already fucked up your back once. If i were you, i'd drop the heavy squats and deadlifts for the rest of your life. Even if you correct your form, your lower back is now going to be weaker and more susceptible to injury. There is literally no need in this world to be able to deadlift/squat more than 225 (obviously a number out of my ass). Stick with lighter weight in the squats and take advantage of the leg press and isolation leg movements. You only live once brahh

This post was edited by MrBobMarley on Aug 23 2013 04:15pm
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Just keep working on it.

Literally every time I squat I am looking to improve my form, and do so. Just try to keep the movement as natural as possible, know what REAL good form is, and work from where you are at.


and to OP..

Honestly fuck it. You have no intention of competing I assume, and you've already fucked up your back once. If i were you, i'd drop the heavy squats and deadlifts for the rest of your life. Even if you correct your form, your lower back is now going to be weaker and more susceptible to injury. There is literally no need in this world to be able to deadlift/squat more than 225 (obviously a number out of my ass). Stick with lighter weight in the squats and take advantage of the leg press and isolation leg movements. You only live once brahh


I agree 5000x with this last little bit, if you're not going to be doing anything competitively where squatting more will help, fuck it.
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Aug 23 2013 06:41pm
Quote (NMU @ Aug 23 2013 06:18am)
are you questioning the use of squats as an effective muscle building tool, using your own poor squat form as evidence of the dangers?

brb benching in a way that compromises my rotator cuffs, claiming bench is evil


So what was intended to be an unselfish message to educate and warn people at the expense of my own dignity, you interpreted as a malicious attempt to steer people away from muscle gain.
I am without words.


Quote (bensfriend1 @ Aug 23 2013 01:43pm)
Just for future reference, I had the exact same problem with my back except mine herniated all the way and cracked to the point where the inner-substance was pushing directly on my sciatic nerve.  I did have the surgery (micro discectomy ) and I literately regained my life back.

If yours ever gets to the point where it is bothering you again and you think you may havecracked through the disk i wouldn't hesitate the get the surgery because it was 1-2 months of downtime and I was able to retain all my flexibility and mobility like it was prior to the injury.

If you have any questions PM me otherwise, I hope your back stays strong and you don't need to get surgery ever!


Good to hear you are doing better after the surgery. I hope to never need it and I really appreciate the input.


Quote (MrBobMarley @ Aug 23 2013 02:07pm)
Just keep working on it.


Literally every time I squat I am looking to improve my form, and do so. Just try to keep the movement as natural as possible, know what REAL good form is, and work from where you are at.


and to OP..

Honestly fuck it. You have no intention of competing I assume, and you've already fucked up your back once. If i were you, i'd drop the heavy squats and deadlifts for the rest of your life. Even if you correct your form, your lower back is now going to be weaker and more susceptible to injury. There is literally no need in this world to be able to deadlift/squat more than 225 (obviously a number out of my ass). Stick with lighter weight in the squats and take advantage of the leg press and isolation leg movements. You only live once brahh


It's hard to argue with that logic. The primary reason I lift is just to stay healthy and active. Battling injury was never part of my game plan. I don't see big squat numbers in my future.
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Aug 23 2013 07:32pm
Quote (MrBobMarley @ Aug 23 2013 02:08pm)
it's not as bad, but still not good by any means. So no it's not ok


Quote (NMU @ Aug 23 2013 03:09pm)
injuries dont require you to be lifting heavy weight at all. it all depends on the forces and torques applied to bones, ligaments and tendons/muscle bellies during a lift really, but you can hurt yourself with relatively small loads if you arrange yourself properly


ok i'm gonna watch some youtube videos on how to do them properly then
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