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Sep 28 2011 11:09am
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Sep 28 2011 11:19am
Quote (Darkblue @ 28 Sep 2011 20:01)
Energy is energy. Your body uses what it needs and the rest of that protein just goes stored as fat. So if you're consuming too much protein, then yeah cutting that could do you more of a service. Protein isn't magic son, it's necessary but just like anything can have negative results if abused. And well in the process you rape your kidneys with ketones for no reason.

only need 20-30% of your calories to be protein. anymore more than that is a waste and can even yield negative effects..


That's a pretty bookproof view there.
Protein has less tendency to be stored but carbs get converted into fat when in excess.
Many people think of protein as magic and yes when you have troubles with kidney's then one of the worse things to do is eat a lot of protein according to sport's medicine.
95% of the time you don't need proteins to make up a majority of your energy intake contrary to what GSXR believes, it's more like 30% for normal and 20% for a training athlete.

Bulking simply put - more calories than needed.
Clean or not clean is just a matter of calorie surplus. One might also say a matter of calorie sources, burger vs natural chicken breast for example.
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Sep 28 2011 11:22am
Quote (wildjesus @ Sep 28 2011 08:19pm)
That's a pretty bookproof view there.
Protein has less tendency to be stored but carbs get converted into fat when in excess.
Many people think of protein as magic and yes when you have troubles with kidney's then one of the worse things to do is eat a lot of protein according to sport's medicine.
95% of the time you don't need proteins to make up a majority of your energy intake contrary to what GSXR believes, it's more like 30% for normal and 20% for a training athlete.

Bulking simply put - more calories than needed.
Clean or not clean is just a matter of calorie surplus. One might also say a matter of calorie sources, burger vs natural chicken breast for example.


The quality of the nutrients affects your well-being in general, so while you can still bulk with macdonalds, you're feeding yourself garbage for fuel.
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Sep 28 2011 11:23am
Quote (Edyrem @ Sep 28 2011 12:22pm)
The quality of the nutrients affects your well-being in general, so while you can still bulk with macdonalds, you're feeding yourself garbage for fuel.


He's just talking about the basic principals of cutting and bulking. You can cut and bulk and eat fucking dog food if you wanted to. We aren't talking about overall body wellness :rofl:

Obviously, that is important tho and I see your point :P
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Sep 28 2011 11:28am
Quote (Edyrem @ 28 Sep 2011 20:22)
The quality of the nutrients affects your well-being in general, so while you can still bulk with macdonalds, you're feeding yourself garbage for fuel.


Mainly as I see it: trash usually is very calorie rich therefore leaves you less calories to eat in as healthy/er products if you got a calorie goal.
I'm not a big trash eater myself though as I'm relatively lean throughout the year.
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Sep 28 2011 11:53am
Quote (wildjesus @ Sep 28 2011 02:28pm)
Mainly as I see it: trash usually is very calorie rich therefore leaves you less calories to eat in as healthy/er products if you got a calorie goal.
I'm not a big trash eater myself though as I'm relatively lean throughout the year.


Would depend what you consider trash. Foods high in fat--fat being the macronutrient with the highest caloric value per gram--will definitely yield more calories sure.

Or even foods/beverages with refined sugar. Like shit, glass of Grape juice, 80g sugar.

Is this what you are reffering to as trash or are you getting into discussion about micronutrients (or lack there of)

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Thanks for thread. :)


you're very welcome
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Sep 28 2011 12:06pm
Quote (Darkblue @ Sep 28 2011 01:53pm)
Would depend what you consider trash. Foods high in fat--fat being the macronutrient with the highest caloric value per gram--will definitely yield more calories sure.

Or even foods/beverages with refined sugar. Like shit, glass of Grape juice, 80g sugar.

Is this what you are reffering to as trash or are you getting into discussion about micronutrients (or lack there of)



you're very welcome


I just crushed a can of Mountain Dew Code Red. I live in Canada. They don't normally sell that shit here.
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Sep 28 2011 12:08pm
Quote (Trolloaloal33 @ Sep 28 2011 03:06pm)
I just crushed a can of Mountain Dew Code Red. I live in Canada. They don't normally sell that shit here.


I live in Canada too fam
I've been the one smuggling Code Red across the border :ph34r:

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Sep 28 2011 01:59pm
good thread! good simple and easy way to find out how much calories in and out bro's should be having.
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Sep 28 2011 02:08pm
Quote (GSXR @ Sep 28 2011 12:05pm)
lold


and why do you lol?
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