My rear delts are seriously lacking and I think that may be contributing to a little of my shoulder pain (although I could be wrong. cloudkicker don't destroy me please)

When I do bent over db raise, I tend to get a lot of pain from the bicipital tendinitis. I was thinking of trying out face pulls, but does anyone have any other ideas?

bend over

reverse cable flys

can do standing up as well

Standing face pulls

Use the seated row with rope for face pulls

Reverse DB flys

Reverse Machine fly

Bent over DB bent arm row (not sure what it's called)

vouch this.. i love reverse cable flys.. i do mine standing.

what is more likely in my mind is supraspinatus tendon inflammation. supraspinatus is a rotator cuff muscle responsible for some external or lateral rotation of the humerus as well as the first 30 degrees of abduction (movement performed during a lateral raise). its tendon inserts near the bicipital groove on the humerus which may be mistaken for long bicep tendon pain. the biceps really arent involved much in reverse flys, it makes much more sense that you're doing work with supraspinatus and the tendon is impinged a bit in the ac joint or worn down from misuse.

actually supraspinatus is visible in your diagram as the muscle that crosses the top of the scapula and inserts right beside the biceps tendon there. if it were biceps pain i would anticipate you feeling it during shoulder flexion (think hitler salute, no racist)

This post was edited by cloudkicker on Mar 15 2016 07:50pm

When in pt for this, they did have me doing rotator cuff stuff, but they also said bicipital tendinitis. Every time I go back on prednisone though, the pain always comes back.

When I do front and lateral raises, the next day I feel it in my bicep a little bit, so I figured it was that.

could be both then. they have manual testing for different tendons and ligaments so they can give you a better idea than i can but both can produce similar pain

HEVY DEDLIFT AND PULL UP

I had a really good massage therapist...it was feeling tender in front of my shoulder where the bicep tendon connects into the shoulder...

apparently the tendon can fall out of the socket that holds it...which can cause discomfort...

she massaged the tendon back into place and it felt great after...



Didn't feel like a dislocation...but the description seems to match...

This post was edited by PartyInMyPants on Mar 16 2016 07:12pm

I don't know if your pain started in the gym, but if it did, it's due to bad form. Maybe popping/rolling them forward benching, or doing a bicep curl, etc.

Your shoulders are engaged almost all the time working other muscle groups. Simply retract and pull back your shoulders to remove the focus from them. Usually if a muscle group is more dominate then another, it will naturally kick in. For example, if your shoulders are more dominate than chest, during a bench press the focus might shift from your pec to the delt to move the weight.

If you're getting pain in your bicep, you're most likely going too heavy and/or pulling with your arms instead of your delts. Lighten the weight and work your way up.

You can also try switching up your grip from neutral - pronated. Simple fix but does wonders. Maybe even try a thumb less grip so you're not squeezing so much with your bicep.

This post was edited by lmmortal on Mar 17 2016 03:53pm