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Oct 12 2015 12:58pm
so wish me luck...

hope no need surgery will be pissed and depressed that means long recovery time


pain has been on and off for 2 years. and sometimes it would be bad for a few weeks then get better

i have been using a band and doing internal and external rotations daily to help rotator cuff


now the pain has increased quite alot and my shoulder is popping as well as grinding against bones or joints who knows what

and the past 2 days the pain is now radiating up my trap and neck.... to my ear.

all of this is only on my left side...

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Oct 12 2015 02:46pm
Ok, a few questions then:

  • where specifically does your shoulder hurt - where in your rotator cuff, there are four muscles composing it?
  • how did you get the injury two years ago?
  • how old are you?
  • what sorts of physical activity do you do now that involves considerable shoulder movements besides band therapy?
  • do you have full sensitivity of your left shoulder when you move it?


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Oct 12 2015 02:49pm
Sucks to hear man, I hope a few therapeutic exercies can help solve and prevent the problem for your shoulder.
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Oct 12 2015 02:50pm
Quote (Welterweight @ Oct 12 2015 03:46pm)
Ok, a few questions then:
  • where specifically does your shoulder hurt - where in your rotator cuff, there are four muscles composing it?
  • how did you get the injury two years ago?
  • how old are you?
  • what sorts of physical activity do you do now that involves considerable shoulder movements besides band therapy?
  • do you have full sensitivity of your left shoulder when you move it?


he isn't asking us for any help other than to wish him luck.

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Quote (Welterweight @ Oct 12 2015 04:46pm)
Ok, a few questions then:
  • where specifically does your shoulder hurt - where in your rotator cuff, there are four muscles composing it?
  • how did you get the injury two years ago?
  • how old are you?
  • what sorts of physical activity do you do now that involves considerable shoulder movements besides band therapy?
  • do you have full sensitivity of your left shoulder when you move it?




cant say for sure but after lookin at some diagrams seems to be suproaspintous

ive been lifting weights for around 3 to 3.5 years now i guess, and i think it was injured when some dumbass spotting me while benching jerked the bar back to the rack when i still had full control
when he quickly racked the weight i felt some nice pain...

mid 20's

only band therapy on a regular basis everyday. but past 2 days been icing it

what do u mean full sensitivity? i can move it with complete control and full motion. i have some pain and it pops on many different movements, but for some reason when using the band it does not hurt at all doing those movements

Quote (GodisLove @ Oct 12 2015 04:49pm)
Sucks to hear man, I hope a few therapeutic exercies can help solve and prevent the problem for your shoulder.


thanks yeah.... hope its just something that doesnt need surgery.... maybe just a few massages and/or sessions with chiropractor or something basic.... non invasive so i dont need too much time off

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he isn't asking us for any help other than to wish him luck.


...... well input is appreciated too lol...
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Oct 12 2015 03:36pm
Gotta get one of them Stem cell shots.
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Quote (noob_whacker @ Oct 13 2015 08:02am)
cant say for sure but after lookin at some diagrams seems to be suproaspintous

ive been lifting weights for around 3 to 3.5 years now i guess, and i think it was injured when some dumbass spotting me while benching jerked the bar back to the rack when i still had full control
when he quickly racked the weight i felt some nice pain...

mid 20's

only band therapy on a regular basis everyday. but past 2 days been icing it

what do u mean full sensitivity? i can move it with complete control and full motion. i have some pain and it pops on many different movements, but for some reason when using the band it does not hurt at all doing those movements


Supraspinatus sounds about right based on your info. Your spotter at the time jerked the weight back where you most likely didn't let go and it became an upward jerk motion and in turn it became an injury you normally would get if you did seated military press due to upward pushing strain.

I injured my subscalpularis three times (twice on right side, once on left side) from my career of 400+ lb bench pressing and high school shot put throwing. The longest time I "took off" (never stopped lifting, but had to stop anything above 365 lbs+ bench), was eight months. The popping and clicking was all too familiar and very painful.

What actually really helped me was swimming during that summer in Florida. Warmth, swimming, taking time off, I remember coming into the Senior year of high school even stronger very early in the school year because I focused on repairing/rebuilding the smaller muscles within.

If you can move it with complete control/full motion, you most likely have inflammation which is causing the pain. So you must have kept aggravating the injury repeatedly throughout the two years (activities, sleeping wrong, moving wrong). This is good news that you CAN actually move your arm fully. You most likely will not need surgery, because when I was injured in a very similar way I was told the same thing.

Does the icing help? If not, discontinue it immediately.

Which movements specifically do you have pain? I'm guessing it is upwards pressing movements which is why you won't feel it in your band workouts because that type of movement is rarely done.


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Oct 12 2015 04:15pm
Have you been benching and pressing through it this whole time? And don't you live in canada?
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Quote (Welterweight @ Oct 12 2015 06:01pm)
Supraspinatus sounds about right based on your info. Your spotter at the time jerked the weight back where you most likely didn't let go and it became an upward jerk motion and in turn it became an injury you normally would get if you did seated military press due to upward pushing strain.

I injured my subscalpularis three times (twice on right side, once on left side) from my career of 400+ lb bench pressing and high school shot put throwing. The longest time I "took off" (never stopped lifting, but had to stop anything above 365 lbs+ bench), was eight months. The popping and clicking was all too familiar and very painful.

What actually really helped me was swimming during that summer in Florida. Warmth, swimming, taking time off, I remember coming into the Senior year of high school even stronger very early in the school year because I focused on repairing/rebuilding the smaller muscles within.

If you can move it with complete control/full motion, you most likely have inflammation which is causing the pain. So you must have kept aggravating the injury repeatedly throughout the two years (activities, sleeping wrong, moving wrong). This is good news that you CAN actually move your arm fully. You most likely will not need surgery, because when I was injured in a very similar way I was told the same thing.

Does the icing help? If not, discontinue it immediately.

Which movements specifically do you have pain? I'm guessing it is upwards pressing movements which is why you won't feel it in your band workouts because that type of movement is rarely done.


icing does seem to help while its being iced and then for like 5 to 10 min after i take ice off. only ice for 20 min on and then wait like 30 to 40 min before icing again, a few times a day

only think icing helps cause its numbs the area with the cold, very temporary

i also did get 10 days of naproxen from the regular school doctor. but i ran out 2 days ago. dont think i noticed anything from it.

its in pain when not moving it. but also when i do a front lateral raise with no weight i feel pain
and i usually drive with my left hand even though i am right handed. and it hurts EXTREMELY bad when it turn the steering wheel with my left hand... so im only using my right for now.

Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 12 2015 06:15pm)
Have you been benching and pressing through it this whole time? And don't you live in canada?


i actually stopped benching a few months after my shoulder first started hurting and went to dumbell chest press with low weight and worked my way up. i felt this gave me better control over weights and worked secondary muscles to help stabilize the weight and so i wont need a stupid spotter lol. and yeah i have not really changed much with workouts except i stopped doing overhead dumbell shoulder press completely because that aggravated it alot.

even lat pulldown hurt my shoulder at times.

the time i noticed it the worst recently was like 5 or 6 days ago when i did dumbell chest press and could barely do 6 reps at 60 lbs each without extreme pain. i then stopped my workout and decided id take time off... it was a sad day :(

ive gone up to 100 lbs each for 4 reps.... and normally stick at around 70 to 80 lbs



Edit: forgot to say, im in united states murcia, not canada, could use that health insurance lol

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Oct 12 2015 05:07pm
http://stemcellarts.com/commonly-treated-conditions/stem-cell-therapy-for-shoulder-injuries-and-arthritis/

Joe Rogan got one for his should pain and he said it was like within a week it felt much better.
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