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Jul 1 2015 02:13pm
sup all.

every 6 months i go for bloodwork with lipids panel due to having a family history of heart disease. the last 4 of those months i was experimenting with a plant-based diet that was extremely low in fat and saturated fat. my hope was to reduce my total cholesterol from 132 to <100, and my goal was to see if a big change in my diet could have any influence over the role a genetic condition may have whatsoever.

Lipid Panel With LDL/HDL Ratio
Cholesterol, Total - 131
Triglycerides 35
HDL Cholesterol 36 (low)
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 7
LDL Cholesterol Calc 88
LDL/HDL Ratio 2.4

I see my total cholesterol has not changed at all, and the only significant changes were my HDL cholesterol is now marked as low. As far as other results that have changed, my calcium serum and urinalysis pH were borderline high, whereas 6 months ago they were normal.

conclusion: genetics win. total cholesterol dropped by 1 point, so the change in diet didn't even benefit me a little bit as i'd hoped. i've felt no different on a low-fat plant-based diet than i did eating clean with animal products, same energy levels same weight consistency etc. i'll have to look into the pH and calcium thing.

This post was edited by Wretch on Jul 1 2015 02:19pm
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Jul 1 2015 02:58pm
...while a one-person study isn't any way conclusive :P this *is* interesting.

Thanks for sharing. :)
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Jul 1 2015 09:31pm
whats ur height and weight?

how often do u lift?

cardio?

what supplements do u take if any?

just curious
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Jul 1 2015 10:16pm
You can compare to my lipid panel. I eat whatever I want, and gained 60 pounds during wife's pregnancy last year, and lift/cardio several times a week. Supps include creatine and fish oil amd whey
Quote (Henchman21 @ 4 Jun 2015 22:33)
Cholesterol 0-199 mg/dL 142
Desirable is <200 mg/dL
Borderline is 200-239 mg/dL
High is >=240 mg/dL

Triglycerides 0-149 mg/dL 72
Normal is <150 mg/dL
Borderline High is 150-199 mg/dL
High is 200-499 mg/dL
Very High is >=500 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol 40-100 mg/dL 43
Low (increased cardiovascular risk) is <40 mg/dL
High (decreased cardiovascular risk) is >60 mg/dL

Cholesterol, Non-HDL 0-<130 mg/dL 99
Desirable is < 130 mg/dL
Borderline High is 130-159 mg/dL
High is 160-189 mg/dL
Very High is > 189 mg/dL

LDL, Calculated 0-129 mg/dL 85
Optimal is <100 mg/dL
Near Optimal is 100-129 mg/dL
Borderline High is 130-159 mg/dL
High is 160-189 mg/dL
Very High is >=190 mg/dL
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio 1.0-4.5 3.3


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Jul 1 2015 10:22pm
Quote (Wretch @ Jul 1 2015 04:13pm)
sup all.

every 6 months i go for bloodwork with lipids panel due to having a family history of heart disease. the last 4 of those months i was experimenting with a plant-based diet that was extremely low in fat and saturated fat. my hope was to reduce my total cholesterol from 132 to <100, and my goal was to see if a big change in my diet could have any influence over the role a genetic condition may have whatsoever.


uhh my understanding is that if you want to improve your cholesterol, you have to eat reasonably high fat (60g+). so it makes sense that eating low fat doesn't improve your cholesterol. eat some olive oil / avocados / almonds.

This post was edited by carteblanche on Jul 1 2015 10:22pm
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Jul 2 2015 08:19am
Diet doesn't influence much except in extreme intake cases. Exercise is a much better predictor of health
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Quote (noob_whacker @ Jul 1 2015 10:31pm)
whats ur height and weight?

how often do u lift?

cardio?

what supplements do u take if any?

just curious


5'8 142lbs, lift 4 days a week, about 40mins of cardio a week. and i take krill oil, glucosamine, and black cumin seed oil.

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Diet doesn't influence much except in extreme intake cases. Exercise is a much better predictor of health


well at least i've got that going for me! still though, if a certain diet can help me out even a little bit with these numbers, i'd like to find out what it is.

Quote (carteblanche @ Jul 1 2015 11:22pm)
uhh my understanding is that if you want to improve your cholesterol, you have to eat reasonably high fat (60g+). so it makes sense that eating low fat doesn't improve your cholesterol. eat some olive oil / avocados / almonds.


this makes sense, and i'll definitely be getting plenty of healthy fats for the following 6 months. such an extremely low fat diet turned out to be totally counter-productive in lowering my HDL. it wasn't a wise choice at all :lol:

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Quote (Wretch @ Jul 2 2015 05:43pm)
5'8 142lbs, lift 4 days a week, about 40mins of cardio a week. and i take krill oil, glucosamine, and black cumin seed oil.



well at least i've got that going for me! still though, if a certain diet can help me out even a little bit with these numbers, i'd like to find out what it is.



this makes sense, and i'll definitely be getting plenty of healthy fats for the following 6 months. such an extremely low fat diet turned out to be totally counter-productive in lowering my HDL. it wasn't a wise choice at all :lol:


Probably not tbh. Diet doesn't influence cholesterol very much. You could lower TG by taking in less fat but you can also just exercise. Exercise will likely improve all aspects of a blood lipid panel compared to what your baseline is, especially cardio work. The only thing is I don't know whether the values you posted there are already influenced by exercise or not
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Oh god
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Jul 3 2015 04:36pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Jul 3 2015 09:49am)
Probably not tbh. Diet doesn't influence cholesterol very much. You could lower TG by taking in less fat but you can also just exercise. Exercise will likely improve all aspects of a blood lipid panel compared to what your baseline is, especially cardio work. The only thing is I don't know whether the values you posted there are already influenced by exercise or not


exercise has been constant and pretty consistent for the past few years. the only changes are during the winter i work out 6 days a week while not working, and during spring/summer/fall when i do work a physically demanding job, work out only 4 days a week.
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