Alright, figured I would make a topic to get your view on Starting Strength (if you have one): the books, the techniques, the programs, and the coaches/people ... I found them through some of Dr Jonathon Sullivan's work (actually it was linked here ... a review of stregnth science).

Apparently Mark Rippetoe's power clean technique has come under fire, but I think his audience for that lift is new/novice lifters, as opposed to Olympic level lifters: maybe that explains the "issue"?

I don't know someone not looking to become a competitive lifter would do power-cleans anyway. Just seems like overkill.

Define overkill for someone who is trying to build strength.

It has been suggested that it augments the deadlift, but regardless it's a nice movement for basketball. It's not quite sport-specific, but it's a movement you will replicate in-game, over and over. And I play basketball.



Indeed!

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Aug 31 2014 05:37pm

I used it and had great results

however I did remove the power cleans for bent over back rows

Good feedback, and good to hear it!

I'm thinking about switching to some of their stuff to augment my basketball training. I do strength movements, but not as often as I'd like, just because I spend so much time on conditioning, agility and sprints, etc.. And a ton of basketball/cardio.

I'm a fan of leg workouts and I want to increase my strength base for the upcoming season (Mid-/late-October). Usually I just maintain it, but I want to change it up and see some increases. Currently using 250/325/350 for (usually 10ish) reps for squats (depends on the day tbh), although I avoid going higher because I am not looking to max. However I am thinking of going to near max on my lifts exactly because I want to increase my strength base. Bench press not as strong atm and not needed as much, either.

The cleans are the part of the SS stuff that interested me, just because the technique seems a bit different to me. I often do cleans, just not quite the way they do them. Ideally I will find something that can augment my current training regimen without:

a. forcing me to overtrain;
b. interfering with sport performance

I feel that a well-defined, purposeful strength training regimen will yield a greater return than my current self-administration of (mostly, almost purely) sport-oriented lifting. Basically I want to focus on two things rather than one now.

e: before anyone says I already do strong lifts, please bear in mind that I have played basketball for a couple of decades and that I started lifting in grade 7, long before it was cool to lift. Strength is relative and I need to re-vamp my stuff.

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Aug 31 2014 07:13pm

Starting strength follows a linear progression upping the weights every training session (3x week)

You've already got quite a few years of lifting under your belt, it's unlikely Youl be able to maintain these increases for a very long period of time

I'd suggest a more intermediate program with weekly progression rather than 3x weekly, for instance mad cows or Texas method

When I did SS I also removed cleans for rows

SS also lacks arm work and upper body in general, many people report getting big ass Glutes and legs with t rex sized arms,

I'll look into them (hadn't heard of mad cows). Pretty much anything that will allow me to increase strength over time without completely wiping out my CNS and my body so that I can still practice and play.

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Aug 31 2014 09:29pm

What about wendlers?

E/ omg do smolov jr for.power.cleans LOL

This post was edited by turtol on Aug 31 2014 10:17pm

do 5/3/1 for slower progression if you're going to be doing a lot more outside the gym

for basketball, you're better off working on jumping and foot work..pc's are garbage anyway unless you have a coach to guide your form