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Mar 6 2012 02:28pm
Tastes like feet, so I may suggest getting the pill form or capping them yourself.

Not the worst taste in the world but to someone with a squeamish stomach I can see it being a little difficult.


Day 4 and my nagging shoulder is completely fine. Great shit.
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Mar 6 2012 02:30pm
why is it better than glucosamine?
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Mar 6 2012 02:33pm
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why is it better than glucosamine?


1) Bhagath, K.P., et al (2009). Petroleum Ether Extract of Cissus Quadrangularis (Linn.) Enhances Bone Marrow Mesenchymal Stem Cell Proliferation and Facilitates Osteoblastogenesis. Clinics (Sao Paulo). October; 64(10): 993–998.
2) Muthusami, S., et al (2011). Effects of cissus quadrangularis on the proliferation, differentiation and matrix mineralization of human osteoblast like SaOS-2 cells. J Cell Biochem. Apr;112(4):1035-45.
3) Parisuthiman, D., et al (2009). Cissus quadrangularis extract enhances biomineralization through up-regulation of MAPK-dependent alkaline phosphatase activity in osteoblasts. Journal In Vitro Cell Dev Biol Anim. Mar-Apr;45(3-4):194-200.
4) Shirwaikar A., et al (2003). Antiosteoporotic effect of ethanol extract of Cissus quadrangularis Linn. on ovariectomized rat. Journal of Ethonopharmacology, 89, 245–250.
5) Jainu M., Devi C.S.S. (2005). Attenuation of neutrophil infiltration and proinflammatory cytokines by Cissus quadrangularis: a possible prevention against gastric ulcerogenesis. J Herbal Pharmacother. 5, 33-42.
6) Udupa K. N., and Prasad G. C. (1964). Further studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in accelerating fracture healing, Indian J. Med. Res., 52, 26–35.
7) Sen S.P., et al (1966). Studies on the active constituents. 10 Further studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in accelerating fracture healing, Indian Journal of Medical Research, 52, 26.
8) Chopra S.S., et al (1976). Studies of Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: a histopathological study, Indian Journal of Medical Research, 64(9), 1365–1368.
9) Canalis H., et al. (1998). Growth factors and the regulation on bone remodeling, Journal of Clinical Investigation, 81, 277– 281.
10. Prasad G.C., Udupa K.N. (1972). Pathways and site of action of a phytogenic steroid from Cissus quadrangularis, Journal of Research in Indian Medicine, 4, 132.
11. Udupa K.N., et al (1965). The effect of phytogenic steroid in the accleration of fracture repair, Life Science, 4, 317.
12. Mishra, G., et al. (2010). Pharmacological and Therapeutic Activity of Cissus quadrangularis: An Overview. International Journal of PharmTech Research CODEN (USA): April-June, Vol.2, No.2, 1298-1310.
13. Ferrandiz M.L., Alcaraz M.J. (1991). Anti-inflammatory activity and inhibition of arachidonic acid metabolism by flavonoids, Agents and Actions. 32 (3–4), 283–288.
14. Mallika J., Shyamala Devi CS. (2006). Gastroprotective action of Cissus quadrangularis extract against NSAID induced gastric ulcer: role of proinflammatory cytokines and oxidative damage. Biol Interact, 161, 262–70.
15. Lin, J., et al. (1999). “Preliminary screening of some traditional Zulu medicinal plant for Anti-inflammatory and Anti-microbial activity”, Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 68, 267-274.
16. Justin Raj, S., Joseph, B. (2011). Pharmacognostic and traditional properties of Cissus quadrancularis Linn -An overview. International Journal of Pharma and Bio Sciences, Vol. 2,1, Jan-Mar., 131-139.
17. Oben, Kuate, Agbor, Momo, Talla (2006). The use of a Cissus quadrangularis formulation in the management of weight loss and metabolism. Institute of Medical Research & Medicinal Plant studies, Yaounde, Cameroon. Lipids in Health and Disease, 5:24
18. Jainu and C.S. Devi. (2005). In vitro and In vivo evaluation of free radical scavenging potential of Cissus quadrangularis, African Journal of Biomedical Research, 8(2), 95-99.
19. Chopra, S.S., Patel, M.R., Awadhiya, R.P. (1976). Studies of Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: a histopathological study. Indian J Med Res. Sep;64(9):1365-8.
20. Chopra, S.S., Patel, M.R., Gupta, L.P., Datta, I.C. (1975). Studies on Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: effect on chemical parameters in blood. Indian J Med Res. Jun;63(6):824-8.
21. Prasad, G.C., Udupa, K.N. (1963). Effect of Cissus Quadrangolaris on the healing of cortisone treated fractures. Indian J Med Res. Jul;51:667-76.




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Mar 6 2012 02:38pm
Gearz, where you get your spry gum from again?
Was going to get nice amazon prices, but then remembered I don't want to pay for 5x different shippings.
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Mar 6 2012 02:39pm
Quote (xGeArz @ 6 Mar 2012 15:33)
1) Bhagath, K.P., et al (2009). Petroleum Ether Extract of Cissus Quadrangularis (Linn.) Enhances Bone Marrow Mesenchymal Stem Cell Proliferation and Facilitates Osteoblastogenesis. Clinics (Sao Paulo). October; 64(10): 993–998.
2) Muthusami, S., et al (2011). Effects of cissus quadrangularis on the proliferation, differentiation and matrix mineralization of human osteoblast like SaOS-2 cells. J Cell Biochem. Apr;112(4):1035-45.
3) Parisuthiman, D., et al (2009). Cissus quadrangularis extract enhances biomineralization through up-regulation of MAPK-dependent alkaline phosphatase activity in osteoblasts. Journal In Vitro Cell Dev Biol Anim. Mar-Apr;45(3-4):194-200.
4) Shirwaikar A., et al (2003). Antiosteoporotic effect of ethanol extract of Cissus quadrangularis Linn. on ovariectomized rat. Journal of Ethonopharmacology, 89, 245–250.
5) Jainu M., Devi C.S.S. (2005). Attenuation of neutrophil infiltration and proinflammatory cytokines by Cissus quadrangularis: a possible prevention against gastric ulcerogenesis. J Herbal Pharmacother. 5, 33-42.
6) Udupa K. N., and Prasad G. C. (1964). Further studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in accelerating fracture healing, Indian J. Med. Res., 52, 26–35.
7) Sen S.P., et al (1966). Studies on the active constituents. 10 Further studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in accelerating fracture healing, Indian Journal of Medical Research, 52, 26.
8) Chopra S.S., et al (1976). Studies of Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: a histopathological study, Indian Journal of Medical Research, 64(9), 1365–1368.
9) Canalis H., et al. (1998). Growth factors and the regulation on bone remodeling, Journal of Clinical Investigation, 81, 277– 281.
10. Prasad G.C., Udupa K.N. (1972). Pathways and site of action of a phytogenic steroid from Cissus quadrangularis, Journal of Research in Indian Medicine, 4, 132.
11. Udupa K.N., et al (1965). The effect of phytogenic steroid in the accleration of fracture repair, Life Science, 4, 317.
12. Mishra, G., et al. (2010). Pharmacological and Therapeutic Activity of Cissus quadrangularis: An Overview. International Journal of PharmTech Research CODEN (USA): April-June, Vol.2, No.2, tel:1298-1310.
13. Ferrandiz M.L., Alcaraz M.J. (1991). Anti-inflammatory activity and inhibition of arachidonic acid metabolism by flavonoids, Agents and Actions. 32 (3–4), 283–288.
14. Mallika J., Shyamala Devi CS. (2006). Gastroprotective action of Cissus quadrangularis extract against NSAID induced gastric ulcer: role of proinflammatory cytokines and oxidative damage. Biol Interact, 161, 262–70.
15. Lin, J., et al. (1999). “Preliminary screening of some traditional Zulu medicinal plant for Anti-inflammatory and Anti-microbial activity”, Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 68, 267-274.
16. Justin Raj, S., Joseph, B. (2011). Pharmacognostic and traditional properties of Cissus quadrancularis Linn -An overview. International Journal of Pharma and Bio Sciences, Vol. 2,1, Jan-Mar., 131-139.
17. Oben, Kuate, Agbor, Momo, Talla (2006). The use of a Cissus quadrangularis formulation in the management of weight loss and metabolism. Institute of Medical Research & Medicinal Plant studies, Yaounde, Cameroon. Lipids in Health and Disease, 5:24
18. Jainu and C.S. Devi. (2005). In vitro and In vivo evaluation of free radical scavenging potential of Cissus quadrangularis, African Journal of Biomedical Research, 8(2), 95-99.
19. Chopra, S.S., Patel, M.R., Awadhiya, R.P. (1976). Studies of Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: a histopathological study. Indian J Med Res. Sep;64(9):1365-8.
20. Chopra, S.S., Patel, M.R., Gupta, L.P., Datta, I.C. (1975). Studies on Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: effect on chemical parameters in blood. Indian J Med Res. Jun;63(6):824-8.
21. Prasad, G.C., Udupa, K.N. (1963). Effect of Cissus Quadrangolaris on the healing of cortisone treated fractures. Indian J Med Res. Jul;51:667-76.


can u give me cliffs? im on my phone :/

jw cuz i use glucosamine for my shoulders and knees.
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Mar 6 2012 02:40pm
Quote (Morholt @ Mar 6 2012 08:38pm)
Gearz, where you get your spry gum from again?
Was going to get nice amazon prices, but then remembered I don't want to pay for 5x different shippings.


Vitamin Shoppe.


Or swansonvitamins.com

They have free 5 dollar off coupons on their facebook page now, so that would completely knock out the 4.99 shipping for any order.

Quote (MyAddiction @ Mar 6 2012 08:39pm)
can u give me cliffs? im on my phone :/

jw cuz i use glucosamine for my shoulders and knees.


If glucosamine is working for you then keep taking it. Aside from a joint supp, cissus has pretty nice anti-catabolic and anti-cortisol properties.

I've never tried glucosamine longer then a few days but it didn't do much for me.

This post was edited by xGeArz on Mar 6 2012 02:43pm
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Mar 6 2012 02:40pm
Gonna try this stuff soon for pains in my elbows.

How does the taste compare to unflavoured BCCA's?
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#8
Mar 6 2012 02:42pm
how about the studies. a couple words about a potential interaction with osteoblasts is not sufficient enough to make an informed decision of one over the other

why it over msm, glucosamine, chondroitin. in other words the actual components of fibrous tissues (specifically collagen)
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Mar 6 2012 02:45pm
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Gonna try this stuff soon for pains in my elbows.

How does the taste compare to unflavoured BCCA's?


Better than BCAA's. More of a herb flavor though as it IS stem/roots.

Quote (zeratul87 @ Mar 6 2012 08:42pm)
how about the studies. a couple words about a potential interaction with osteoblasts is not sufficient enough to make an informed decision of one over the other

why it over msm, glucosamine, chondroitin. in other words the actual components of fibrous tissues (specifically collagen)


I never put it over msm,gluco,chondroiton.

It's worked so far for me, so I'm sticking with it.

There were a few threads posted asking if anyone tried it, I now have, and I like it....so I posted it here.

That's a long list of studies for anyone to look through, that's why I posted them.

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Mar 6 2012 02:56pm
posted this in the articles thread. thanks brah. wish more people would add the studies to that thread though. then again adding the thread to it isnt bad either.
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