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Dec 3 2009 10:29pm
What is the Highest %ed weapon Hell Andy and Meph can drop? What about trav?
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Dec 4 2009 03:20am
Andy, not sure maybe 170 ED
Trav 200 ED
Mefi 180 - 200 ED (depends on req of items)
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Dec 4 2009 03:33am
Quote (KaterMikesch @ 4 Dec 2009 10:20)
Andy, not sure maybe 170 ED
Trav 200 ED
Mefi 180 - 200 ED (depends on req of items)


i believe andy to be 160 but black xsitenz can come in here and clear it all up.

to be honest it needs to be stickied when he does.

also qlvl plays a part in this.
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Dec 4 2009 05:45am
It all depends on weapon type.
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Dec 4 2009 05:50am
Quote (Monze @ 4 Dec 2009 12:45)
It all depends on weapon type.


explain
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Quote (Ketchum @ 4 Dec 2009 12:50)
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Meph can drop 200% ed weapons but he can't drop 180+% ed battle hammers or martels.
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Dec 4 2009 06:40am
Okay to clear things up once and for all here is how you determine whether or not a monster/boss can drop certain items with certain mods.

Terms needed for this 'test':
  • qlvl - This is the quality level of the item e.g. martel de fer, battle hammer, exec etc.
  • ilvl - This is the item level which is determined by the level of the monster who dropped the item.
  • alvl - This is the most interesting part because this is what determine what monsters can drop and what they cannot drop.
The formula for calculating alvl goes like this:
Code
{
if (ilvl<(99-qlvl/2))
then {alvl=ilvl-qlvl/2}
else {alvl=2*ilvl-99}
}


Lets take an example using a martel de fer dropped by mephisto on hell difficulty.

We know the following:
  • Mephisto on hell is level 76 thus making his drops ilvl 76.
  • The qlvl of a martel de fer is 53
  • The alvl required for 200%ed to spawn is 56
Lets put this into our formula:

if (76<(99-53/2))
then {alvl=76-53/2}
else {alvl=2*76-99}

Since 76 is higher than 99-53/2 we will use the bolded equation.

alvl=2*76-99
alvl=53

What this tells us is that mephisto will drop martel de fers with an alvl of 53. We already determined that we would need an alvl of 56 in order to get 200% ed weapons thus one will never get more that 180%ed on a martel de fer dropped by mephisto on hell difficulty.

This post was edited by Monze on Dec 4 2009 06:41am
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Dec 4 2009 08:40am
andy: 160 ed max on the good weapons
meph: 180 ed
trav: 200 ed

although, iirc, meph can drop 200ed partizans.
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Dec 4 2009 08:46am
Quote (Monze @ Dec 4 2009 03:40pm)
Okay to clear things up once and for all here is how you determine whether or not a monster/boss can drop certain items with certain mods.

Terms needed for this 'test':
  • qlvl - This is the quality level of the item e.g. martel de fer, battle hammer, exec etc.
  • ilvl - This is the item level which is determined by the level of the monster who dropped the item.
  • alvl - This is the most interesting part because this is what determine what monsters can drop and what they cannot drop.
The formula for calculating alvl goes like this:
Code
{
if (ilvl<(99-qlvl/2))
then {alvl=ilvl-qlvl/2}
else {alvl=2*ilvl-99}
}


Lets take an example using a martel de fer dropped by mephisto on hell difficulty.

We know the following:
  • Mephisto on hell is level 76 thus making his drops ilvl 76.
  • The qlvl of a martel de fer is 53
  • The alvl required for 200%ed to spawn is 56
Lets put this into our formula:

if (76<(99-53/2))
then {alvl=76-53/2}
else {alvl=2*76-99}

Since 76 is higher than 99-53/2 we will use the bolded equation.

alvl=2*76-99
alvl=53

What this tells us is that mephisto will drop martel de fers with an alvl of 53. We already determined that we would need an alvl of 56 in order to get 200% ed weapons thus one will never get more that 180%ed on a martel de fer dropped by mephisto on hell difficulty.


Sticky this. Imo the question comes up once a month on average....
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Dec 4 2009 09:22am
Quote (Xornn @ 4 Dec 2009 15:46)
Sticky this. Imo the question comes up once a month on average....


vouch.
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