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May 22 2016 09:32am
As a non english native, I'm tripping over this little grammatical question : when using a proper name (city name, first/last name etc...), and that name ends with the letter "S", if you have to add the suffix -ian to it, will you end the word in -sian, or will you double the "S" to make it -ssian?

For exemple, with the city name Dallas, would you write it Dallasian or Dallassian (yes, I know, it's Dallasite)? Or Cyrus (better be thinking about Cyrus the Great than Miley), would you say Cyrusian or Cyrussian?
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May 22 2016 09:35am
If there are concrete rules for this, they are not adhered to. Don't be surprised to see one person say "Dallasite" another say "Dallasian" and another say "Dallasonian."
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May 22 2016 09:42am
If I remember correctly it goes with the number of syllables.

Ex: 3 or more syllables is 1 rule. Less than 3 is another.

Not sure which rule is which.
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May 22 2016 09:44am
Quote (Arnage @ May 22 2016 11:32am)
Or Cyrus (better be thinking about Cyrus the Great than Miley), would you say Cyrusian or Cyrussian?


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May 22 2016 09:45am
Often, you change the -ian to -an, so Dallasan. But no one says Dallasan, they would just say "person from Dallas".
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May 22 2016 09:48am
English is my 3rd learned language so I simplify it a lot! keep it ez mate at 420 a lot B)
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May 22 2016 10:05am
I would use a single s. People from Belarus are known as Belarusians. A individual person would be a Belarusian. Just because a location name ends in the letter s, I dont think the rules change.

I think the typical usage of "-ian" is used for speaking of the people of a large geographic location like a state, country, or continent.

For smaller groups of people such as cities and families, i think there is probably a more appropriate way to ass a possessive element to these locations of people. I would use phrases like "the Cyrus family" or "the people of Dallas" or "residents of Dallas"

This post was edited by NatureNames on May 22 2016 10:24am
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May 22 2016 03:54pm
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I would use a single s. People from Belarus are known as Belarusians. A individual person would be a Belarusian. Just because a location name ends in the letter s, I dont think the rules change.

I think the typical usage of "-ian" is used for speaking of the people of a large geographic location like a state, country, or continent.

For smaller groups of people such as cities and families, i think there is probably a more appropriate way to ass a possessive element to these locations of people. I would use phrases like "the Cyrus family" or "the people of Dallas" or "residents of Dallas"


Good exemple. As for Cyrus, it would be more if you are speaking about a Cyrus-era artifact, would it be a Cyrusian artifact or a Cyrussian artifact?
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May 22 2016 04:04pm
Quote (Arnage @ May 22 2016 03:32pm)
As a non english native, I'm tripping over this little grammatical question : when using a proper name (city name, first/last name etc...), and that name ends with the letter "S", if you have to add the suffix -ian to it, will you end the word in -sian, or will you double the "S" to make it -ssian?

For exemple, with the city name Dallas, would you write it Dallasian or Dallassian (yes, I know, it's Dallasite)? Or Cyrus (better be thinking about Cyrus the Great than Miley), would you say Cyrusian or Cyrussian?


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Wow I can't believe how badly you foreigners fuck up the English language.
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May 22 2016 05:10pm
Quote (NekoSama @ May 22 2016 10:04pm)
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Wow I can't believe how badly you foreigners fuck up the English language.


That's the demonym for the State, the demonym for the city of Dallas is Dallasite.

Wow, I can't believe how badly you know your own language.
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