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Jul 27 2015 10:04am
Apart from chest, looking really good.
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Jul 27 2015 10:13am
Quote (DALTONG @ Jul 27 2015 11:03am)
I'm lazy about adding and removing weights... I know I'm not working out properly but fuck... Putting the weights on the bar and taking them off takes almost as long as the workout you have on that piece of equiptment... That's what sucks about going to the gym

I just have my bench full of all my weight. and my dumbells. I usually only take off weights or move weights to the leg thing on my bench a few times when I work out.

Do max bench then remove 20 lbs and go until I can't anymore... I don't often go as far as taking off another 20.

I dunno why but I feel like its a waste of time to keep lifting a lower weight.. I know it helps but I just don't do it.


Haha. Yeah I take it a little far sometimes but it's a good technique.
It's called a drop set. Lift a certain weight for X reps then lower weight 20 lbs or so and do as many reps as you can. No need to drop the weight 8 times. I just do that as a burn out.
Now do you only flat bench? or do you incline as well?
Genetics play a role as well but as long as you stick to 8-10 or 12 reps you'll notice some gains.
Keep in mind it takes a LONG time to develop muscle.
The less experienced lifters will gain more muscle per year than someone who has been lifting for 4+ years.
I'd say gaining 12 lbs in the first year of lifting is a good estimate. Keep in mind that's with proper nutrition and a good training regiment.
Some people gain muscle in certain areas of the body faster than others.
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Jul 27 2015 10:19am
Quote (Fioravanti @ Jul 27 2015 10:13am)
Haha. Yeah I take it a little far sometimes but it's a good technique.
It's called a drop set. Lift a certain weight for X reps then lower weight 20 lbs or so and do as many reps as you can. No need to drop the weight 8 times. I just do that as a burn out.
Now do you only flat bench? or do you incline as well?
Genetics play a role as well but as long as you stick to 8-10 or 12 reps you'll notice some gains.
Keep in mind it takes a LONG time to develop muscle.
The less experienced lifters will gain more muscle per year than someone who has been lifting for 4+ years.
I'd say gaining 12 lbs in the first year of lifting is a good estimate. Keep in mind that's with proper nutrition and a good training regiment.
Some people gain muscle in certain areas of the body faster than others.


Shit I have to lower weight on bench to get 8-12 reps. I thought if I did more weight I could add more weight sooner... I actually did it this way when I got back into lifting after multiple years of no lifting at all I could only bench about 130 lol.... And in about 2 weeks time I got up to 170. But can only get 4 maybe 5 reps in on that

And yes I do an incline sometimes but not often because need to take off weight to do so. And also my home bench is gay and Its very difficult to get the bar up by tourself when it's right on your chest cuz of the incline... It's just stupid. It isn't even possible to use the barbell on the bench when it's inclined all the way ( there's only 2 levels of incline) flat, 1st bar, second bar and that leaves no room at all to get underneath the barbell

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Jul 27 2015 10:23am
Quote (Fioravanti @ Jul 27 2015 07:13am)
Haha. Yeah I take it a little far sometimes but it's a good technique.
It's called a drop set. Lift a certain weight for X reps then lower weight 20 lbs or so and do as many reps as you can. No need to drop the weight 8 times. I just do that as a burn out.
Now do you only flat bench? or do you incline as well?
Genetics play a role as well but as long as you stick to 8-10 or 12 reps you'll notice some gains.
Keep in mind it takes a LONG time to develop muscle.
The less experienced lifters will gain more muscle per year than someone who has been lifting for 4+ years.
I'd say gaining 12 lbs in the first year of lifting is a good estimate. Keep in mind that's with proper nutrition and a good training regiment.
Some people gain muscle in certain areas of the body faster than others.


i did this in higschool and gained muscle in my arms so fast i got stretch marks in my pits and biceps that started to bleed..but i also went from being the gamer nerd to "plz plz plz plz join wrestling and football" that year
i have since stopped because i broke my back 5 years ago now in a car accident but i am looking to get back into lifting regularly..
suggestions for starting out again?
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Jul 27 2015 10:29am
Quote (DALTONG @ Jul 27 2015 11:19am)
Shit I have to lower weight on bench to get 8-12 reps. I thought if I did more weight I could add more weight sooner... I actually did it this way when I got back into lifting after multiple years of no lifting at all I could only bench about 130 lol.... And in about 2 weeks time I got up to 170. But can only get 4 maybe 5 reps in on that


I usually stick to 10 reps max. 8-10. You'll be able to control the weight better and feel the contraction more which will lead to more muscle growth.
Feel free to switch it up every once in a while. Every few weeks do sets of 5 reps for strength.

Yes the bench will make a difference. The ones @ my gym have 4 slots for the bar depending on the person height. They are fixed incline and fixed flat benches though. For DB's you can adjust the angle.


Quote (MrHitts @ Jul 27 2015 11:23am)
i did this in higschool and gained muscle in my arms so fast i got stretch marks in my pits and biceps that started to bleed..but i also went from being the gamer nerd to "plz plz plz plz join wrestling and football" that year
i have since stopped because i broke my back 5 years ago now in a car accident but i am looking to get back into lifting regularly..
suggestions for starting out again?


Sorry to hear about the car accident! How is your back now? It all depends on what your back can handle. I know you should definitely avoid squats and deadlifts. Those can be harmful if a condition already exists of if done with incorrect form.


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Jul 27 2015 10:32am
Quote (Fioravanti @ Jul 27 2015 10:29am)
I usually stick to 10 reps max. 8-10. You'll be able to control the weight better and feel the contraction more which will lead to more muscle growth.
Feel free to switch it up every once in a while. Every few weeks do sets of 5 reps for strength.


I'm going to build those dumbells and do dumbell press instead... I can also do incline dumbell press too

. But like I asked before.

You think I'd get more gains if I dumbell press 100-120 lbs between the 2 rather than barbell benching 150-170

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Jul 27 2015 10:34am
Quote (Fioravanti @ Jul 27 2015 07:29am)
I usually stick to 10 reps max. 8-10. You'll be able to control the weight better and feel the contraction more which will lead to more muscle growth.
Feel free to switch it up every once in a while. Every few weeks do sets of 5 reps for strength.




Sorry to hear about the car accident! How is your back now? It all depends on what your back can handle. I know you should definitely avoid squats and deadlifts. Those can be harmful if a condition already exists of if done with incorrect form.


back pain every day but im used to it so its meh unless it starts to lock up.
i would have to work on those lifts slowly with probably some extensive stretching beforehand.
Quote (DALTONG @ Jul 27 2015 07:32am)
I'm going to build those dumbells and do dumbell press instead... I can also do incline dumbell press too

. But like I asked before.

You think I'd get more gains if I dumbell press 100-120 lbs between the 2 rather than barbell benching 150-170


dumbell press worked better for me, but at then end of each workout i also did a burnout
just 45 pound bar rep 100x, work legs for a bit then do 50x with bar, run for a bit, then do a mid range bench 10x
kills your arms but it worked wonders for me

Quote (DALTONG @ Jul 27 2015 07:37am)
Ya just start of really light with that kinda stuff.


I don't do enough of that kind of stuff because I also have back problems... And bad knees. ( osgood Schlaters)


yeah the knees haven't hit me yet, half my family has had knee replacement so i take it easy on squats and such, i tend to over work my lats and dumbell press

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Jul 27 2015 10:35am
Quote (DALTONG @ Jul 27 2015 11:32am)
I'm going to build those dumbells and do dumbell press instead... But like I asked before.

You think I'd get more gains if I dumbell press 100-120 lbs between the 2 rather than barbell benching 150-170


Well I personally notice a better contraction and stretch with dumbbell. Its easier on my shoulders and wrists because of the greater range of motion. It may take a while to adjust but I like DB's more.
It's personal preference I suppose. Try both and see what works better for you!


Quote (MrHitts @ Jul 27 2015 11:34am)
back pain every day but im used to it so its meh unless it starts to lock up.
i would have to work on those lifts slowly with probably some extensive stretching beforehand.


Yeah you'll have to ease back into everything slowly. If it becomes uncomfortable then back it down. I would definitely avoid strenuous back exercises like deadlift and squats though!
I'm not a sports medicine doctor so I can't give you a professional opinion but an opinion from personal experience


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Jul 27 2015 10:37am
Quote (MrHitts @ Jul 27 2015 10:34am)
back pain every day but im used to it so its meh unless it starts to lock up.
i would have to work on those lifts slowly with probably some extensive stretching beforehand.


Ya just start of really light with that kinda stuff.


I don't do enough of that kind of stuff because I also have lower back problems... And bad knees. osgood Schlatters in one knee

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Jul 28 2015 10:12am
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