Nice!

Because being an asshole isn't actually inherently attractive to women, and won't help for shit.

Just stop acting like a fucking buddy, duh. If you don't want yo be someone's friend, don't hang around acting like you do in hopes that she'll decide she really wants to fuck you because you've been so 'nice.' It pretty much never works out that way.

this biggs if u act like a friend then u will always be a friend.

Put it on her from the start biggs, the only girls you make friends with are the ones in a relationship!

Which is why I really hate women logic. I'm just about over it. Maybe I'm done being nice. Maybe I just won't care about them anymore. I have my own projects that I can worry about anyway.

What the fuck is illogical about that or is some kind of special 'woman logic?'

If some woman that you didn't find attractive just hung around you and tried to help you out with stuff, would it eventually make her fuckable?

I cannot picture something like that because it has never happened. I therefore cannot answer that.

Don't try to analyze their thinking it's a pointless endeavor.

What you have to do is:

- Take control of most situations, that's what women want - someone that can look after them, for the most part anyway.
So that might mean asking them to dinner, lunch, coffee or whatever you enjoy doing in a relaxed environment (without any doubt that they will agree, if they are consistently saying they don't have time or aren't interested then go onto someone else). Or lets go for a roadtrip, or go camping or whatever - find out what is comfortable and that they enjoy doing.

- Give them space, if they think your whole life is around talking to them they will see that you are needy and have no life. What you need to have is things that you do on a regular basis so that you have legitimate reasons for not being able to spend time with them.

- Be generous, whether it's occasionally paying for their share or getting them gifts - this will help a lot with showing that you are serious. If you aren't serious, well, buy them drinks at a bar and enjoy your one night stand.

- Talk about personal stuff and ask them questions, so long as they are comfortable.


That list is in no way comprehensive but should help you start the process of going out with girls.

This post was edited by Hubris on Jun 1 2016 11:21pm

You just need to have a conversation with the girl in question... That's all

Say what you want, ask what she wants, etc

The above is only good advice if you're a shitty person and no one could ever like you for who you are. Otherwise, just be you, ffs. You just have to be a you who doesn't sit around begging for the attention of women who aren't interested in them. Speak up and if you're not satisfied, move on.